WENGER OUT

Re: WENGER OUT

Postby EliteKiller » Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:22 am

MesutOzil11 wrote:You lot are tripping.

It's a fact that the window goes a bit quiet during the middle stages of it. It will pick up again soon.

Chelsea, United, Spurs are all looking to bring in players still but know they have to wait.



Chelsea EPL champions .... Spurs 2nd .... Utd spent 75m on a striker with more to come ..... remember we finished 18 points adrift .... if Alexis goes we've clearly gone backwards 5th will look good ......

If he stays we've done OK but the squad's not 18 points better than last year .... not yet anyway
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby MesutOzil11 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:46 am

Slint wrote:
MesutOzil11 wrote:You lot are tripping.

It's a fact that the window goes a bit quiet during the middle stages of it. It will pick up again soon.

Chelsea, United, Spurs are all looking to bring in players still but know they have to wait.


Tripping? The only scenario in which i see Wenger signing more players is as if we lose to chelsea 6-0 on the charity shield. Wasn't the 8-2 that finally made Wenger panic sign all those players in 2011?
Also...i'm not 100% sure, but i think i remember reading him saying he would only sign one or two players this summer wasn't it?


We have signed players in positions that were our main priority. Strike and left back/wing back.

I'm not arsed about past transfer windows. Our current squad isn't in desperate need of additions like it has been in recent times before a season has started where our preparation has been awful.

Sanchez will probably stay. Wenger has made that quite clear now.

We are heavily linked with Seri and Lemar and we will almost definitely sign one out of the two. Possibly both depending on departures.

Our business isn't over.

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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Slint » Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:51 am

Well...i have to be honest, i prefer this type of bullshit from Wenger than the bullshit he used in the past two summers "We're good enough to challenge the league" or something along those lines. I still don't think we'll sign more players this summer, except if massive injuries and awful results in the first games while it's still August take place.
Normally when we're in businnes we sign players very fast. If the situation starts to drag(Lemar, Benzema and countless others), then it's just paper garbage.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby CaptGooner » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:04 pm

MesutOzil11 wrote:
Slint wrote:
MesutOzil11 wrote:You lot are tripping.

It's a fact that the window goes a bit quiet during the middle stages of it. It will pick up again soon.

Chelsea, United, Spurs are all looking to bring in players still but know they have to wait.


Tripping? The only scenario in which i see Wenger signing more players is as if we lose to chelsea 6-0 on the charity shield. Wasn't the 8-2 that finally made Wenger panic sign all those players in 2011?
Also...i'm not 100% sure, but i think i remember reading him saying he would only sign one or two players this summer wasn't it?


We have signed players in positions that were our main priority. Strike and left back/wing back.

I'm not arsed about past transfer windows. Our current squad isn't in desperate need of additions like it has been in recent times before a season has started where our preparation has been awful.

Sanchez will probably stay. Wenger has made that quite clear now.

We are heavily linked with Seri and Lemar and we will almost definitely sign one out of the two. Possibly both depending on departures.

Our business isn't over.


Need area is open to interpretation but I'd argue CM is right up there at the top. Attacking midfield/winger (pending on formation) is up there as well with Alexis wanting out. If Wenger starts playing Laca in midfield (we've seen crazier experiments) then technically we never signed a striker.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby 1991 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:17 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:The man is starting to get on my nerves again now ........... we've signed Lacazette and that is it (in midfield and up).

A striker i give him no credit for, he's owed us a striker for at least 3-4 years now.

Where's our 2nd striker we need? where's the winger instead then? where's Sanchez's replacement going to come from? because at this rate he's not staying either.

This window so far has been a complete failure, we're two top signings away from the minimum this new era was supposed to deliver, can you imagine how urgent those two signings will become once Sanchez thumbs our noses so much we have to relent and sell?

All our transfer talks with any steam have petered out almost completely right now.

Specialist in failure once again.

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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby gunnasauras » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:39 pm

Wenger said that there are two ways to imrove your squad. Make improvements in coaching and equip the players that are already at the club with better tactics or buy in quality. Which do you think he is going to opt for. Im not conviced by Lacazzette. He is not young and has never been able to force Giroud out of the national squad. And even when it came to the Euros in France his nation didnt give him the nod. Instead they opted for a no mark (Gignac) who was plying his trade in the Mexican league. Seriously. And Alexi wont be with us in September. Thats a backwards move for us. And buying players at the end of August is f***ing stupid to me. It just confirms to me that for the start of another premier league campaign we are not prepared.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby DiamondGooner » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:07 pm

CaptGooner wrote:Need area is open to interpretation but I'd argue CM is right up there at the top. Attacking midfield/winger (pending on formation) is up there as well with Alexis wanting out. If Wenger starts playing Laca in midfield (we've seen crazier experiments) then technically we never signed a striker.


.......... and that is when I'll lose my sh*t completely hence why this talk saying we've signed what we needed is garbage from the usual suspects.

Wenger has already identified our deadwood, why?, because he's already put them out on the market.

Wilshere, Elneny, Debuchy, Perez etc etc.

We really needed a 2nd striker but I guess that's going to be Giroud, we need a top class LW to rotate with Sanchez or worst case if he forces a sale to actually replace him.
CM would be good because all we have is Ramsey and ideally one more wide player otherwise we're stuck with Welbeck and Walcott.

Wenger could make life easier for himself if he realised Perez could be used as a WF.

Perez and Lemar would be very nice rotation options with Ozil and Sanchez, but instead he's ousting Perez so he better go buy Mahrez on top of that list.

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........... is the minimum we need otherwise we've not improved on last year at all.

Ask yourself the question especially if Sanchez goes ......... how have we improved the squad since last season exactly?

We just need to hope there are still some transfers incoming.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Slint » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:18 pm

gunnasauras wrote:Wenger said that there are two ways to imrove your squad. Make improvements in coaching and equip the players that are already at the club with better tactics or buy in quality. Which do you think he is going to opt for. Im not conviced by Lacazzette. He is not young and has never been able to force Giroud out of the national squad. And even when it came to the Euros in France his nation didnt give him the nod. Instead they opted for a no mark (Gignac) who was plying his trade in the Mexican league. Seriously. And Alexi wont be with us in September. Thats a backwards move for us. And buying players at the end of August is f***ing stupid to me. It just confirms to me that for the start of another premier league campaign we are not prepared.


right? damn...i mean this transfer smells bad from every angle. Looking at the amount of strikers signed by the best european clubs in the past 6 years that Wenger missed out, but this guys which plays on Lyon first team for years now wasn't signed by anyone? i mean come on...if he was really elite he would have been signed under Wenger's radar so fast years a go. Wenger even allowed Liverpool to sign Suarez from Ajax ffs. Now i am supposed to believe Laca is the answer to our problems? Give me a break . He is going to flop hard in the premier league...or not, for some reason the british press is light on us, so they will problably say he was the best signing of the years after he scores 8 or 9 goals in all competitions.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:45 pm

Slint wrote:
gunnasauras wrote:Wenger said that there are two ways to imrove your squad. Make improvements in coaching and equip the players that are already at the club with better tactics or buy in quality. Which do you think he is going to opt for. Im not conviced by Lacazzette. He is not young and has never been able to force Giroud out of the national squad. And even when it came to the Euros in France his nation didnt give him the nod. Instead they opted for a no mark (Gignac) who was plying his trade in the Mexican league. Seriously. And Alexi wont be with us in September. Thats a backwards move for us. And buying players at the end of August is f***ing stupid to me. It just confirms to me that for the start of another premier league campaign we are not prepared.


right? damn...i mean this transfer smells bad from every angle. Looking at the amount of strikers signed by the best european clubs in the past 6 years that Wenger missed out, but this guys which plays on Lyon first team for years now wasn't signed by anyone? i mean come on...if he was really elite he would have been signed under Wenger's radar so fast years a go. Wenger even allowed Liverpool to sign Suarez from Ajax ffs. Now i am supposed to believe Laca is the answer to our problems? Give me a break . He is going to flop hard in the premier league...or not, for some reason the british press is light on us, so they will problably say he was the best signing of the years after he scores 8 or 9 goals in all competitions.

He's been scoring nearly a goal a game for the last few years.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby theHotHead » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:07 pm

I am too busy laughing to get angry, seriously, I didn't expect anything else from that dimwit Wenger.

Talk about it being a slow period of the transfer window is bollox. How do transfers work? A club has a player you want. Is that player for sale? No. Offer over the odds for the player and see what happens or move on.

If the player is for sale, how much do the club want for the player? Offer the amount wanted, seal the deal and move on. Its not fukkin rocket science!! You go to a store to buy a Coke, you pay the money the shop keeper wants. No long ting.

Wenger is waiting until the end of the transfer window to catch a bargain, cheapskate f**k!
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby theHotHead » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:17 pm

Slint wrote:
gunnasauras wrote:Wenger said that there are two ways to imrove your squad. Make improvements in coaching and equip the players that are already at the club with better tactics or buy in quality. Which do you think he is going to opt for. Im not conviced by Lacazzette. He is not young and has never been able to force Giroud out of the national squad. And even when it came to the Euros in France his nation didnt give him the nod. Instead they opted for a no mark (Gignac) who was plying his trade in the Mexican league. Seriously. And Alexi wont be with us in September. Thats a backwards move for us. And buying players at the end of August is f***ing stupid to me. It just confirms to me that for the start of another premier league campaign we are not prepared.


right? damn...i mean this transfer smells bad from every angle. Looking at the amount of strikers signed by the best european clubs in the past 6 years that Wenger missed out, but this guys which plays on Lyon first team for years now wasn't signed by anyone? i mean come on...if he was really elite he would have been signed under Wenger's radar so fast years a go. Wenger even allowed Liverpool to sign Suarez from Ajax ffs. Now i am supposed to believe Laca is the answer to our problems? Give me a break . He is going to flop hard in the premier league...or not, for some reason the british press is light on us, so they will problably say he was the best signing of the years after he scores 8 or 9 goals in all competitions.

To be fair his record looks pretty damn good, its obvious he knows where the goal os and his finishing looks solid. Its not like he is a Gomis or totally mediocre striker, a 3 to 4 games per goal striker. Laca seems to be better than that.

I think there is a lot of premature worrying, let the guy settle in first.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:23 pm

theHotHead wrote:I am too busy laughing to get angry, seriously, I didn't expect anything else from that dimwit Wenger.

Talk about it being a slow period of the transfer window is bollox. How do transfers work? A club has a player you want. Is that player for sale? No. Offer over the odds for the player and see what happens or move on.

If the player is for sale, how much do the club want for the player? Offer the amount wanted, seal the deal and move on. Its not fukkin rocket science!! You go to a store to buy a Coke, you pay the money the shop keeper wants. No long ting.

Wenger is waiting until the end of the transfer window to catch a bargain, cheapskate f**k!

It's like buying a house though, not like buying coke. You can get the price down a bit.

Though after 13 years without a title, you should pay the asking price

It's like not having a place to stay and not paying the asking price for the house, in the hopes of getting it for a little less, while living homeless for the year, if you fail
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby CaptGooner » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:06 pm

GoonerAlexis wrote:
theHotHead wrote:I am too busy laughing to get angry, seriously, I didn't expect anything else from that dimwit Wenger.

Talk about it being a slow period of the transfer window is bollox. How do transfers work? A club has a player you want. Is that player for sale? No. Offer over the odds for the player and see what happens or move on.

If the player is for sale, how much do the club want for the player? Offer the amount wanted, seal the deal and move on. Its not fukkin rocket science!! You go to a store to buy a Coke, you pay the money the shop keeper wants. No long ting.

Wenger is waiting until the end of the transfer window to catch a bargain, cheapskate f**k!

It's like buying a house though, not like buying coke. You can get the price down a bit.

Though after 13 years without a title, you should pay the asking price

It's like not having a place to stay and not paying the asking price for the house, in the hopes of getting it for a little less, while living homeless for the year, if you fail

Sellers market. Everything decent going close to asking price or higher.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby theHotHead » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:22 pm

So takes away the guesswork, you have to pay the asking price.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby gunnasauras » Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:28 pm

You dont have to pay the asking price. Do what Wenger does. Go in low and stay low. Piss off every European club going wherby when they hear that Arsenal are in for one of their players they feel safe and secure that their assets will be staying put. Totally devalue Arsenal as a brand and atain some sort of comic status amongst europes elite and watch the club go backwards. Its working for Wenger. When Alexi talks to other footballers who respect him how do you think the conversation goes. Does he say Arsenal is an incedible european power and alround great club on the brink of something happening. Losing 15-3 to Bayern over 3 games was just a blip. Or does he say Wenger sold me a big f***ing lie when i signed for this club. Told me of his plans to dominate football but doesnt have a f***ing clue how to execute the plan. I think its the latter. How come a smaller club like Chelsea can demand higher endorsement fees through sponsorship than arsenal. Oh its because brands like to be assosiated with winners. Not f***ing nearly men. Were cheap at the moment. He better start making jestures of goodwill to the fans soon.
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