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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:22 pm

theHotHead wrote:
Reiss wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Reiss wrote:£180m warchest rumours lol

We've done a full circle back to the Wenger years!


Absolute chequebook manager.

Newcastle could make Top 6 if they spent the £225m Arteta already has. And here we are, sinking another fortune to support Mr. Non-negotiables.


Let's be honest most if not all managers need money to rebuild and shape the squad into their own.

Pep needs it, Jose needs it and even Klopp needed it although the latter does it via self generated funds.

We were an absolute sh*t show when Mikel walked into this club. You can't expect him to work wonders with the likes of Mustafi and Sokratis.

We've cleared a decade worth of clogged crap and chronic inefficiencies over the past 24 months. We've got a good foundation built now and when we improve the attack in the summer he won't have any excuses left.

No we weren't, we were not the 6th best team in the league we were better than that, Wenger was a stubborn dufus who paid no attention to defending. We finished 5th with Emery who it turns out was even worse defensivley. Just think how much closer to 4th we would've got with even a slight defensive improvement. You talk about us being a shit show, explain how we got to the Europa League final the season before ? Explain how the only teams that scored more goals than us were Man City and Liverpool who finished first and second respectively, if we were such a shit show.

You cannot put Klopp in the same bracket as Pep and Mourinho, the latter have been chequebook managers, at least Mourinho did something special with Porto when he didn't have money to spend, Pep has never proved that he can do the same. Klopp has spent money earned by selling his best players, he is not a chequebook manager in the slightest ! Klopp is what Wenger was at first and should have maintained being instead of going off trying to prove the world that his way was the right way when we could all see that his way was doomed to fail.

So this narrative that the squad was washed up and shot and blah blah blah is nonsense.


The squad was totally washed up and had dropped to 11th place in the league with no improvement in sight.
It required an entire rebuild which is what we are doing.
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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby Hypergooner » Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:36 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Reiss wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Reiss wrote:£180m warchest rumours lol

We've done a full circle back to the Wenger years!


Absolute chequebook manager.

Newcastle could make Top 6 if they spent the £225m Arteta already has. And here we are, sinking another fortune to support Mr. Non-negotiables.


Let's be honest most if not all managers need money to rebuild and shape the squad into their own.

Pep needs it, Jose needs it and even Klopp needed it although the latter does it via self generated funds.

We were an absolute sh*t show when Mikel walked into this club. You can't expect him to work wonders with the likes of Mustafi and Sokratis.

We've cleared a decade worth of clogged crap and chronic inefficiencies over the past 24 months. We've got a good foundation built now and when we improve the attack in the summer he won't have any excuses left.

No we weren't, we were not the 6th best team in the league we were better than that, Wenger was a stubborn dufus who paid no attention to defending. We finished 5th with Emery who it turns out was even worse defensivley. Just think how much closer to 4th we would've got with even a slight defensive improvement. You talk about us being a shit show, explain how we got to the Europa League final the season before ? Explain how the only teams that scored more goals than us were Man City and Liverpool who finished first and second respectively, if we were such a shit show.

You cannot put Klopp in the same bracket as Pep and Mourinho, the latter have been chequebook managers, at least Mourinho did something special with Porto when he didn't have money to spend, Pep has never proved that he can do the same. Klopp has spent money earned by selling his best players, he is not a chequebook manager in the slightest ! Klopp is what Wenger was at first and should have maintained being instead of going off trying to prove the world that his way was the right way when we could all see that his way was doomed to fail.

So this narrative that the squad was washed up and shot and blah blah blah is nonsense.


The squad was totally washed up and had dropped to 11th place in the league with no improvement in sight.
It required an entire rebuild which is what we are doing.


I'm not entirely Arteta out (yet), but the squad Wenger left was in no way washed up. The squad Emry left also wasn't far off being a squad capable of nailing down regular CL spots.
Arteta's inability to work with and get the best from what he had, is the reason we have fallen away for two seasons and now hardly have enough players to field a team.
I can't think of any other manager that has ripped apart a squad as quick as Arteta.

It remains to be seen if his project has legs. It might and I hope it does.
I would rather the board have just brought in a manager to make Wengers squad more organised at the back, instead of Emry and Arteta. We could be winning leagues by now if they had
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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby Santi » Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:01 am

theHotHead wrote:
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Hypergooner wrote:It's an amazing situation that we find ourselves in.
Artetaball really doesn't lend itself to a 25 goal per season striker. His tactics rely more on wingers and CAM for goals. Maybe we would be better just getting in a strong link up player and not expect loads of gaols from them.
Ivan Toney is still on my wish list. The way he plays looks to suit Arteta perfectly to me. Would like to see that lanky Italian bloke (Scamacca) to come in with him though, just to mix the options up.


Well that tactic works just fine for Liverpool and Man City so I don't think it's really a criticism of 'artetaball' and more that people need to get used to the way the game is changing.

Obviously before someone tries to be smart, I'm not saying our football is anywhere near the level of those two.

No, but what you are suggesting is that there is one way to be successful on the pitch, which we all know isn't true.


How exactly am I suggesting that? I’m doing the exact opposite by acknowledging how you can do well despite not having a ‘25 goal a season striker’ :think:
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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby Santi » Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:02 am

Zenith wrote:The Athletic: Contract renewals for Martinelli, Saka, and Saliba on 2022 agenda. Isak and DCL Arsenal’s two top striking targets.

[Paywall] https://theathletic.com/3107305/2022/02 ... =twitteruk



Hahaha imagine the moaners if Saliba gets a new contract and they can’t moan about us damaging his value :rofll:
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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby Hypergooner » Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:45 am

TedLasso wrote:Three year extension followed by a loan to PSG where he carries Messi to a champions league title.


I can't see him wanting to sign a new contract with us. His whole demeanour is of someone who thinks Arsenal as a club are clueless W****rs.

The whole buying players then loaning them out might pay off though. If we get 5 or 6m per loan fee and their wages covered. We make money over their contracted term with us and could bring them back to play, or sell them if we want to.
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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby Arsenal Tone » Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:50 am

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Raya/Ramsdale
White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
???/Jorginho
Odegaard/Smith Rowe----Rice/???
Saka/Jesus-------------------Martinelli/Trossard
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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby jayramfootball » Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:00 am

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ESR has to play.
If we can make a 433 work we may not even need a striker.
Neither Isak or DCL are very exciting prospects. Neither are top level goal scorers.
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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby BexleyGooner » Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:33 pm

Zenith wrote:The Athletic: Contract renewals for Martinelli, Saka, and Saliba on 2022 agenda. Isak and DCL Arsenal’s two top striking targets.

[Paywall] https://theathletic.com/3107305/2022/02 ... =twitteruk

Saka’s not signing another contract. Got a horrible feeling the lads heads been turned. He’s actually looked a bit disinterested last few games.
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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby swipe right » Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:38 pm

Money should be saved for the new director of football and manager to invest. These two idiots will be gone by summer.
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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby Nuggets » Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:00 pm

BexleyGooner wrote:
Zenith wrote:The Athletic: Contract renewals for Martinelli, Saka, and Saliba on 2022 agenda. Isak and DCL Arsenal’s two top striking targets.

[Paywall] https://theathletic.com/3107305/2022/02 ... =twitteruk

Saka’s not signing another contract. Got a horrible feeling the lads heads been turned. He’s actually looked a bit disinterested last few games.


Wouldn't you be with a clown of a manager and NO prospects of CL football?
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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby Nuggets » Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:00 pm

swipe right wrote:Money should be saved for the new director of football and manager to invest. These two idiots will be gone by summer.

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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:48 pm

Santi wrote:
Zenith wrote:The Athletic: Contract renewals for Martinelli, Saka, and Saliba on 2022 agenda. Isak and DCL Arsenal’s two top striking targets.

[Paywall] https://theathletic.com/3107305/2022/02 ... =twitteruk



Hahaha imagine the moaners if Saliba gets a new contract and they can’t moan about us damaging his value :rofll:


We can't even get a useless player like Eddie to extend. Doubtful Saliba does, as Marseille are a good shout for CL.
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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby ag6789 » Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:57 pm

Let the games commence from Feb 10, and we shall see.
Could be a rejuvenated bunch that'll fire us to the top 4. We're short of a striker but some academy player might step up; and maybe Arteta & Co do have a plan in place.
I'm not giving up on this squad yet.
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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby jayramfootball » Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:25 pm

Reiss wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Reiss wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Reiss wrote:£180m warchest rumours lol

We've done a full circle back to the Wenger years!


Absolute chequebook manager.

Newcastle could make Top 6 if they spent the £225m Arteta already has. And here we are, sinking another fortune to support Mr. Non-negotiables.


Let's be honest most if not all managers need money to rebuild and shape the squad into their own.

Pep needs it, Jose needs it and even Klopp needed it although the latter does it via self generated funds.

We were an absolute sh*t show when Mikel walked into this club. You can't expect him to work wonders with the likes of Mustafi and Sokratis.

We've cleared a decade worth of clogged crap and chronic inefficiencies over the past 24 months. We've got a good foundation built now and when we improve the attack in the summer he won't have any excuses left.

No we weren't, we were not the 6th best team in the league we were better than that, Wenger was a stubborn dufus who paid no attention to defending. We finished 5th with Emery who it turns out was even worse defensivley. Just think how much closer to 4th we would've got with even a slight defensive improvement. You talk about us being a shit show, explain how we got to the Europa League final the season before ? Explain how the only teams that scored more goals than us were Man City and Liverpool who finished first and second respectively, if we were such a shit show.

You cannot put Klopp in the same bracket as Pep and Mourinho, the latter have been chequebook managers, at least Mourinho did something special with Porto when he didn't have money to spend, Pep has never proved that he can do the same. Klopp has spent money earned by selling his best players, he is not a chequebook manager in the slightest ! Klopp is what Wenger was at first and should have maintained being instead of going off trying to prove the world that his way was the right way when we could all see that his way was doomed to fail.

So this narrative that the squad was washed up and shot and blah blah blah is nonsense.


I didn't say Klopp is a chequebook manager. I said he needed money to turn Liverpool into the beast they are today.

When he had the players he inherited he was getting beat by the likes of Palace, Newcastle and Watford in his first season and finished 8th.

Point is, every manager needs money to make the squad their own. Arteta is no different. Add to that the fact that we had deep rooted, chronic issues that dated back 15 years- we're only starting to free ourselves from those shackles now.


Klopp spent £227.3m in the same amount of time as Arteta has spent £228.03m from the start of their tenures.

I guess the extra £703k is the difference between a cheque book manager and not .

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Re: 2022 Summer Transfer Window

Postby Santi » Sat Feb 05, 2022 12:15 am

But he sold Coutinho so it doesn't count ffs Jay, use your brain!!



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