starmandb wrote:Power n Glory wrote:starmandb wrote:Power n Glory wrote:starmandb wrote:Power n Glory wrote:starmandb wrote:theHotHead wrote:starmandb wrote:22-0 wrote:Not to mention over playing our youngsters hurts them in the long run.. to much pressure and will end up with long term injuries.
Same thing happened to a lot of the barca youngsters when they tried to rebuild doing the same thing.
Arsenal players appearances at 23 followed by total appearances for the club
Here is just a sample
O’Leary 308… 722
Adams 235…. 672
Armstrong 239…. 621
Rice 170…. 525
Storey 180…. 506
Simpson 142….. 478
Davis 201……445
Rix 231….. 449
Parlour 199….. 442
Merson 188….. 415
Vieira 172…. 400
Good enough
Old enough
Football then is NOTHING LIKE football now.
You could get away with eating shit food, getting drunk and being totally unprofessional, you cannot now. Footballers are finely tuned athletes
The game is faster now, the ball is in play for longer too.
And you got kicked a lot more and teams used far fewer players throughout the season and there was 1 sub. Parlour and Vieira played in the post diet era and add to those Walcott Ramsey and Henry who played a lot of games young and went on to play a lot of games for us and there are others
Ramsey and Walcott aren't the best examples. Both have missed a lot of football through injury and can't play a lot of minutes through a season. Theo's 33 and Ramsey is 31. Auba is 33 and so is Lewandowski. Benzema is 34. Ronaldo is 37? They'd be better examples to look at.
Walcott played 397 games for us
Ramsey 371
Touré 327
Ljungberg 324
The original post was about ours
Only interested in ours
But the point was about over playing young players hurts them in the long run and leads to injuries. Walcott and Ramsey haven't played a lot of football in their late 20s going into their 30s and their bodies are close to retirement age.
Ramsey played 72 games in two years in his late 20’s with us
Walcott played 76 in three
You can't just look at the numbers here at Arsenal. You may only care about what they have done here but if we he hope to see some of the kids grow to have long careers here, you have to look at our last crop of youth that played a lot and how things look today.
Ramsey was here for 11 years
Walcott 12
Decent length of a career
Ramsey had over 330 days out injured for us.
Walcott had over 670 days out injured for us.
These two aren't good examples. Each season they'd have a period of games where they'd be out injured and were quite injury prone. We'd often lose them for vital moments of the season.