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Power n Glory wrote:I can already see the Twitter talk. People are pissed that we're still loaning out players and only just recalling some players out on loan when we had the derby postponed. It does look nuts if being objective but other clubs are getting away it so....meh.

Goonerred wrote:

Power n Glory wrote:I can already see the Twitter talk. People are pissed that we're still loaning out players and only just recalling some players out on loan when we had the derby postponed. It does look nuts if being objective but other clubs are getting away it so....meh.

Yeh, Liverpool called off our match then played 3 days later. I think Leicester cited injuries, AFCON and Covid and got their matach called off.

DiamondGooner wrote:

Hypergooner wrote:

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Nuggets wrote:

Reiss wrote:...wilshere anyone?

No thanks.

Definitely take him on pay as you play. He's better than Xhaka and Lokonga. We are now desperate for a quick fix in CM.
Still need to sign a long term option as well though

Wilshere can't play in our deep midfield pair, they are supposed to be the anchor of our team, Wilshere would get run over.

Jack is more a CAM type, closer to ESR than anyone else, in fact ESR is highly similar to a young Jack Wilshere.

Not sure what Wilshere you remember? Jack was more of a proper CM, he was never quick enough to play the CAM role from what I can remember. He used to collect the ball from deep and start the play forward, or start intricate play from outside the opposition box when we were in the final 3rd.

Watch YouTube. Most of the time he was in CM

No he didn't, CM doesn't mean Deep Lying CM / CDM though does it.

Why do you have to be quick to play no10? is Odegaard or Ozil quick? weird statement.

He was moved deep once in the dying embers of his career as cover for a while but most of his actual Arsenal career went like this ...........

Started off on the wing

Moved to the centre as a CM / CAM

Wenger used to play a 4-1-4-1 which we used to call a 4-5-1 but the actual shape was Song, Flamini, Coquelin as the CDM with Ramsey and Wilshere as the CM / CAM's.

Again depending on what period of Arsenal you're talking about, Wilshere was here for a long time and didn't always make first team starter, especially when we had Cazorla, Rosciky and Ozil.

In fact I remember when he was put deep for a period and we were having discussions about the fact that he's going to get injured ......... yep, the time we played City and Toure just brushed him off, we were all saying that's why he shouldn't play there, he was ending up as a heap on the ground a lot.

Hypergooner wrote:We should make a cheeky move for Eden Hazard! He's not getting game time at Madrid I think. Newcastle have just been rejected by him. We might have a chance

Hypergooner wrote:

DiamondGooner wrote:

Hypergooner wrote:

DiamondGooner wrote:

Hypergooner wrote:

Nuggets wrote:

Reiss wrote:...wilshere anyone?

No thanks.

Definitely take him on pay as you play. He's better than Xhaka and Lokonga. We are now desperate for a quick fix in CM.
Still need to sign a long term option as well though

Wilshere can't play in our deep midfield pair, they are supposed to be the anchor of our team, Wilshere would get run over.

Jack is more a CAM type, closer to ESR than anyone else, in fact ESR is highly similar to a young Jack Wilshere.

Not sure what Wilshere you remember? Jack was more of a proper CM, he was never quick enough to play the CAM role from what I can remember. He used to collect the ball from deep and start the play forward, or start intricate play from outside the opposition box when we were in the final 3rd.

Watch YouTube. Most of the time he was in CM

No he didn't, CM doesn't mean Deep Lying CM / CDM though does it.

Why do you have to be quick to play no10? is Odegaard or Ozil quick? weird statement.

He was moved deep once in the dying embers of his career as cover for a while but most of his actual Arsenal career went like this ...........

Started off on the wing

Moved to the centre as a CM / CAM

Wenger used to play a 4-1-4-1 which we used to call a 4-5-1 but the actual shape was Song, Flamini, Coquelin as the CDM with Ramsey and Wilshere as the CM / CAM's.

Again depending on what period of Arsenal you're talking about, Wilshere was here for a long time and didn't always make first team starter, especially when we had Cazorla, Rosciky and Ozil.

In fact I remember when he was put deep for a period and we were having discussions about the fact that he's going to get injured ......... yep, the time we played City and Toure just brushed him off, we were all saying that's why he shouldn't play there, he was ending up as a heap on the ground a lot.

You might be right. I seem to remember him being all over the midfield ruining the show. He started a lot of moves from CM and popped up around the box, when we used to make 20 passes without going anywhere. played deeper at Bournemouth and West Ham. Obviously was always injured though.

Either way given how short we are in CM, I'd get him on pay as you play

Ach wrote:Worst transfer window ever?

Last summer and the one where we only bought cech tough to beat but if we get no one knowing we need players, this might top it

DiamondGooner wrote:

Ach wrote:Worst transfer window ever?

Last summer and the one where we only bought cech tough to beat but if we get no one knowing we need players, this might top it

What window?

We've not even started yet, apart from an exodus of players.

No wonder we can't field an eleven for a match.

AMN, Kolasinac, Balogun gone, Elneny, Pepe, Partey, Auba at the AFCON, Xhaka being Xhaka.

Add to that the injuries and Covid cases.