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Re: Creativity & Chance Conversion

Postby starmandb » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:01 pm

theHotHead wrote:
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ag6789 wrote:Would rather have two big defeats conceding 11 goals followed by 10 1-0 victories than two big wins and 10 marginal defeats. Easy math. 30 points as opposed to 6pts.


Yup.

And as Mourinho and Klopp have said, "It's better to lose 5-0 once than 1-0 five times."

When was the last time Klopp lost ANY match 5-0?!! When did peak Maureen lose any match 5-0?!!!

Its an every season occurrence with us, its shameful.

Apart from 19/20…. 20/21
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Re: Creativity & Chance Conversion

Postby theHotHead » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:28 pm

starmandb wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:More... since the awful start in the first 3 games, Arsenal have officially, according to the quality of chances created, been the 4th most creative team in the league - only just behind Man City and Chelsea, with Liverpool way out on their own at the top.

Over the whole season, including those first 3 games, we are the 7th most creative team in the league.

Jay you know I am gonna rip this to shreds!!! 4th most creative team in the league allegedly but still have a negative goal difference


Makes no sense. We have a negative difference because we got done by City and Chelsea and Liverpool by a combined 11-0.
Has nothing to do with our creativity over the last 10 gaffes or even over all 13.

Ahhh yes, you and your selective time periods.

Getting whopped by 9 goals in 2 games is gonna give problems to recover, but so to is scoring 1 goal against bottom of the table Norwich, scoring 1 goal against bottom 3 Burnley, not scoring against Brighton and scoring 1 goal against a Watford in turmoil!!

Man City scored none against Crystal Palace and got beat
Chelsea got 1 against Burnley
They only drew and were at home

Man City didn't finish 8th last season and out of Europe.
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Re: Creativity & Chance Conversion

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Re: Creativity & Chance Conversion

Postby theHotHead » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:29 pm

starmandb wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
LMAO wrote:
ag6789 wrote:Would rather have two big defeats conceding 11 goals followed by 10 1-0 victories than two big wins and 10 marginal defeats. Easy math. 30 points as opposed to 6pts.


Yup.

And as Mourinho and Klopp have said, "It's better to lose 5-0 once than 1-0 five times."

When was the last time Klopp lost ANY match 5-0?!! When did peak Maureen lose any match 5-0?!!!

Its an every season occurrence with us, its shameful.

Apart from 19/20…. 20/21

Yeah I know I got that wrong Starmandb lol!!
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Re: Creativity & Chance Conversion

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:25 pm

theHotHead wrote:
starmandb wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:More... since the awful start in the first 3 games, Arsenal have officially, according to the quality of chances created, been the 4th most creative team in the league - only just behind Man City and Chelsea, with Liverpool way out on their own at the top.

Over the whole season, including those first 3 games, we are the 7th most creative team in the league.

Jay you know I am gonna rip this to shreds!!! 4th most creative team in the league allegedly but still have a negative goal difference


Makes no sense. We have a negative difference because we got done by City and Chelsea and Liverpool by a combined 11-0.
Has nothing to do with our creativity over the last 10 gaffes or even over all 13.

Ahhh yes, you and your selective time periods.

Getting whopped by 9 goals in 2 games is gonna give problems to recover, but so to is scoring 1 goal against bottom of the table Norwich, scoring 1 goal against bottom 3 Burnley, not scoring against Brighton and scoring 1 goal against a Watford in turmoil!!

Man City scored none against Crystal Palace and got beat
Chelsea got 1 against Burnley
They only drew and were at home

Man City didn't finish 8th last season and out of Europe.



Think the point is that there is no such thing as an easy game in the PL.
The bottom team is quite capable of beating the top team on any given day and far more regularly compete in close games than other leagues.
If Liverpool or City or Chelsea or us or anyone else lose or draw a game to a bottom half team it's not a major event - happens regularly.
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Re: Creativity & Chance Conversion

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:26 pm

We're now the 4th most creative team in the league - even including the first 3 games.
We've passed West Ham and Man Utd for chance creation and it's unlikely they will pass us with the their game(s) in hand.

We still have some issues with finishing

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Re: Creativity & Chance Conversion

Postby DiamondGooner » Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:38 pm

jayramfootball wrote:We're now the 4th most creative team in the league - even including the first 3 games.


How nice of you to include "all" our games played lol, not just the ones you don't want to leave out.

But yes as per the eye test regardless of stats, its clear our chance creation has amped up and Laca has a lot to do with that.

Even though he hasn't scored he's facilitating a lot of goals, even yesterday his tackle which rebounded into the path of Martinelli for the first goal, his through balls, all sorts.

Laca is actually playing very well atm, all he needs is a goal to cap off his displays.
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Re: Creativity & Chance Conversion

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:17 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:We're now the 4th most creative team in the league - even including the first 3 games.


How nice of you to include "all" our games played lol, not just the ones you don't want to leave out.

But yes as per the eye test regardless of stats, its clear our chance creation has amped up and Laca has a lot to do with that.

Even though he hasn't scored he's facilitating a lot of goals, even yesterday his tackle which rebounded into the path of Martinelli for the first goal, his through balls, all sorts.

Laca is actually playing very well atm, all he needs is a goal to cap off his displays.


It's been that way for a while, though, not just recently.

People seem to confuse creativity with goals - but actually we've been creative in several games after the first 3 and our terrible finishing has been more of the driver of a lack of goals.
Even now, we are short on how many goals we should have because of bad finishing.
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Re: Creativity & Chance Conversion

Postby Fran Solo » Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:34 am

jayramfootball wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:We're now the 4th most creative team in the league - even including the first 3 games.


How nice of you to include "all" our games played lol, not just the ones you don't want to leave out.

But yes as per the eye test regardless of stats, its clear our chance creation has amped up and Laca has a lot to do with that.

Even though he hasn't scored he's facilitating a lot of goals, even yesterday his tackle which rebounded into the path of Martinelli for the first goal, his through balls, all sorts.

Laca is actually playing very well atm, all he needs is a goal to cap off his displays.


It's been that way for a while, though, not just recently.

People seem to confuse creativity with goals - but actually we've been creative in several games after the first 3 and our terrible finishing has been more of the driver of a lack of goals.
Even now, we are short on how many goals we should have because of bad finishing.


Odergaard would be the MotM if Lacazette, Partey and some other's finished their chances against Leeds.
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