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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby theHotHead » Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:05 pm

VCC wrote:
ag6789 wrote:Robben used to score these in buckets and none could keep him out. It is their body swerve that unsettles their defenders or markers. Keeps them in two minds.

The ball doesn't lie that's all you have to watch

Its not realistic to just watch the ball because you will be a step and a half behind if you wait to see where the ball goes.

Instead of that, you show the attacker where YOU want them to go, you do that by the shape of your body and your position relative to the goal. You never show a player toward the goal, make them go outside.
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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby ag6789 » Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:18 pm

Shows that Nwaneri is actually getting very good, and Saka has been consistently that good.
They make or attempt to make 3- 4 of these runs, 2 times they would be stopped/ tackled, 3rd one will probably hit a defender, but the 4th one will go in. Doesn't happen every day , but does happen to these players with close ball control and intelligence.
The defender has to make a quick decision as to commit himself fully or let him run more a little bit. But again,he has to keep track of the other guy , lurking around,who could pick up a killer pass in the open and strike. And, last but not the least, a full blooded tackle right on or outside the box will result in a free kick which could be lethal too.
All these considerations will make the defender dither, and could be fatal.
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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby swipe right » Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:22 pm

Bierith
ESR - Nwaneri - Saka


What could have been
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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby theHotHead » Wed Mar 26, 2025 10:15 am

ag6789 wrote:Shows that Nwaneri is actually getting very good, and Saka has been consistently that good.
They make or attempt to make 3- 4 of these runs, 2 times they would be stopped/ tackled, 3rd one will probably hit a defender, but the 4th one will go in. Doesn't happen every day , but does happen to these players with close ball control and intelligence.
The defender has to make a quick decision as to commit himself fully or let him run more a little bit. But again,he has to keep track of the other guy , lurking around,who could pick up a killer pass in the open and strike. And, last but not the least, a full blooded tackle right on or outside the box will result in a free kick which could be lethal too.
All these considerations will make the defender dither, and could be fatal.

Not quite right ag6789.

When you consider a wide forward and how they operate, as a defender you go to intercept. Now diving in is never a good option because its easy to be side-stepped, so you "jockey" which forces the attacker to have to beat you or do something. If the attacker mis-controls the ball and its a cert that you can win it, by all means dive in.

The focus of the defender should solely be on the attacker, if there is the potential of a 2v1 against the defender (an overlapping run for example) the defender is not expected to be able to cope with that, the threat is the player on the ball. If there is an overlap there is nothing the defender can reliably be expected to do about it, at that point its best endeavours only.
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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby swipe right » Wed Mar 26, 2025 7:22 pm

theHotHead wrote:
ag6789 wrote:Shows that Nwaneri is actually getting very good, and Saka has been consistently that good.
They make or attempt to make 3- 4 of these runs, 2 times they would be stopped/ tackled, 3rd one will probably hit a defender, but the 4th one will go in. Doesn't happen every day , but does happen to these players with close ball control and intelligence.
The defender has to make a quick decision as to commit himself fully or let him run more a little bit. But again,he has to keep track of the other guy , lurking around,who could pick up a killer pass in the open and strike. And, last but not the least, a full blooded tackle right on or outside the box will result in a free kick which could be lethal too.
All these considerations will make the defender dither, and could be fatal.

Not quite right ag6789.

When you consider a wide forward and how they operate, as a defender you go to intercept. Now diving in is never a good option because its easy to be side-stepped, so you "jockey" which forces the attacker to have to beat you or do something. If the attacker mis-controls the ball and its a cert that you can win it, by all means dive in.

The focus of the defender should solely be on the attacker, if there is the potential of a 2v1 against the defender (an overlapping run for example) the defender is not expected to be able to cope with that, the threat is the player on the ball. If there is an overlap there is nothing the defender can reliably be expected to do about it, at that point its best endeavours only.

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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby theHotHead » Thu Mar 27, 2025 5:24 am

All I am saying is dont dive in and ignore the overlap cos there is nothing you can do about it. But don't let the wide player cut in on his strong foot. If his strong foot takes him outside that's fine, outside narrows the angle so less of a threat.
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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby Zenith » Sun Apr 20, 2025 5:29 pm

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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby alexafc12 » Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:32 am

He now outscores Odegaard in the PL too

How long before he is starting regularly ?

Doesn't deserve to be on the bench imo
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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby theHotHead » Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:58 am

I don't think its as simple as Odegaard vs Nwaneri, Nwaneri is part attacking midfielder/part wide forward, Odegaard is part CM/part attacking midfielder.

Odegaard is more like the glue for the right hand side of our play, Nwaneri is more focused on getting the ball and attacking. If as you are proposing, replacing one for the other, how would that affect Saka/Saka's game?

Odegaard provides space for Saka, would Nwaneri do the same or be a hindrance?
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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby VCC » Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:05 pm

theHotHead wrote:I don't think its as simple as Odegaard vs Nwaneri, Nwaneri is part attacking midfielder/part wide forward, Odegaard is part CM/part attacking midfielder.

Odegaard is more like the glue for the right hand side of our play, Nwaneri is more focused on getting the ball and attacking. If as you are proposing, replacing one for the other, how would that affect Saka/Saka's game?

Odegaard provides space for Saka, would Nwaneri do the same or be a hindrance?

I disagree I think Ode cramps Saka as well, yesterday the ball was moved quicker to the forwards as their was more space alot of the time bypassing the Ode involvement that slows the attack, in doing so you didn't have so much of the log jam of Ode continuously taking up a semi right wide possition add Timber or white to that and it gets too busy.
No suprise Saka had a very good game he should of has a hat trick by half time. My point is Ode should play more central, I think Nwaneri looks better because he plays a little more centrally to Ode leave the space for saka and pull a defender inwards.
Different perspectives same solution I suppose but Ode plays far too wide for me
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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby alexafc12 » Mon May 05, 2025 2:22 am

Arteta bemoaning injuries and player workload when he plays Odegaard non stop until he suffers a major injury

Then continues to play him non stop with the player said to be playing through pain and a poor run of form

Meanwhile Nwaneri (who has yet to sign his new 5 year deal) has been demoted to sympathy minutes

Shocking squad management
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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby alexafc12 » Sun May 25, 2025 8:47 am

Ben White calls Nwaneri the best trainer at the club

Yet to sign a new deal

Rumours he’s unhappy with his treatment, with Liverpool desperate to sign him, however reliable arsenal sources say it’s rubbish
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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby Losmeister » Sun May 25, 2025 9:24 am

its a mystery about his minutes...


although... to my recollection..... his play dropped off noticeably....
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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby Nuggets » Sun May 25, 2025 10:18 am

Losmeister wrote:its a mystery about his minutes...


although... to my recollection..... his play dropped off noticeably....
...... and Odegaards didn't. ;)
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Re: Ethan Nwaneri (53)

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Mon May 26, 2025 1:45 am

He's shown great potnetial so he shoudl be getting more gametime.

The manager played Sterling at Southampton. weird. the manager makes odd decisions.
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