Dejan wrote:Dejan wrote:Embarrassing thread.
Victim mentality.
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Power n Glory wrote:Salibatelli wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Salibatelli wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Didn't some of you say the goal we conceded to Villa wasn't a foul last week? Where is the consistency? If you're saying this is a foul then surely that Ramsdale one is a foul as well.
Same as said with Ramsdale, I thought he should have done better and been stronger. Football is a contact sport.
Ramsdale was holding the Villa player, I don’t see how that is the same thing, that incident just seemed like 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Erikssen wasn’t holding Odegaard, Odegaard just pushed him, I’ve posted a link to the video above FYI.
What was your view on the Saka situation?
I watched the video and still think it's soft.
I thought Ramsdale was soft and should have commanded his area better.
I think the Saka one is a penalty to me, he seems to get pulled down, it does look like there’s a bit of playacting in there as well which probably didn’t help him, it does look that way anyway, I’ve just watched it a few times over and in real time it looks odd, had to watch it a few times to work out why it looked so dramatic!
The Villa player is definitely holding Saka, what muddies the water a bit is what seems to be a bit of playacting, I don’t know why players do that, it makes what would be an easy decision harder.
Why does that make an easy decision harder if it's a foul? Also, why defend a bad decision? Players do the dramatics to draw attention to a contact and that should have gone to VAR and called as a penalty.
Salibatelli wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Salibatelli wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Salibatelli wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Didn't some of you say the goal we conceded to Villa wasn't a foul last week? Where is the consistency? If you're saying this is a foul then surely that Ramsdale one is a foul as well.
Same as said with Ramsdale, I thought he should have done better and been stronger. Football is a contact sport.
Ramsdale was holding the Villa player, I don’t see how that is the same thing, that incident just seemed like 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Erikssen wasn’t holding Odegaard, Odegaard just pushed him, I’ve posted a link to the video above FYI.
What was your view on the Saka situation?
I watched the video and still think it's soft.
I thought Ramsdale was soft and should have commanded his area better.
I think the Saka one is a penalty to me, he seems to get pulled down, it does look like there’s a bit of playacting in there as well which probably didn’t help him, it does look that way anyway, I’ve just watched it a few times over and in real time it looks odd, had to watch it a few times to work out why it looked so dramatic!
The Villa player is definitely holding Saka, what muddies the water a bit is what seems to be a bit of playacting, I don’t know why players do that, it makes what would be an easy decision harder.
Why does that make an easy decision harder if it's a foul? Also, why defend a bad decision? Players do the dramatics to draw attention to a contact and that should have gone to VAR and called as a penalty.
It makes it harder because actually you can’t be sure the player wasn’t pulled down if they throw themselves to the ground.
I’m not defending I’m saying it looked odd in real time, then when I watched it in slow motion several times it became clearer Saka threw himself to the ground.
If you’re giving the foul for holding then it’s a foul, if you’re giving it for being pulled down then it’s less clear, is he actually being pulled down or is he reacting to be held and throwing himself to the ground?
I don’t personally agree with fouls where a player just gets a light touch and falls over, it should be enough force to knock them off their feet.
You see penalties being given for player jumping over a keeper and catching the keeper with their foot, that for me is not a penalty.
Power n Glory wrote:Salibatelli wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Salibatelli wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Salibatelli wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Didn't some of you say the goal we conceded to Villa wasn't a foul last week? Where is the consistency? If you're saying this is a foul then surely that Ramsdale one is a foul as well.
Same as said with Ramsdale, I thought he should have done better and been stronger. Football is a contact sport.
Ramsdale was holding the Villa player, I don’t see how that is the same thing, that incident just seemed like 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Erikssen wasn’t holding Odegaard, Odegaard just pushed him, I’ve posted a link to the video above FYI.
What was your view on the Saka situation?
I watched the video and still think it's soft.
I thought Ramsdale was soft and should have commanded his area better.
I think the Saka one is a penalty to me, he seems to get pulled down, it does look like there’s a bit of playacting in there as well which probably didn’t help him, it does look that way anyway, I’ve just watched it a few times over and in real time it looks odd, had to watch it a few times to work out why it looked so dramatic!
The Villa player is definitely holding Saka, what muddies the water a bit is what seems to be a bit of playacting, I don’t know why players do that, it makes what would be an easy decision harder.
Why does that make an easy decision harder if it's a foul? Also, why defend a bad decision? Players do the dramatics to draw attention to a contact and that should have gone to VAR and called as a penalty.
It makes it harder because actually you can’t be sure the player wasn’t pulled down if they throw themselves to the ground.
I’m not defending I’m saying it looked odd in real time, then when I watched it in slow motion several times it became clearer Saka threw himself to the ground.
If you’re giving the foul for holding then it’s a foul, if you’re giving it for being pulled down then it’s less clear, is he actually being pulled down or is he reacting to be held and throwing himself to the ground?
I don’t personally agree with fouls where a player just gets a light touch and falls over, it should be enough force to knock them off their feet.
You see penalties being given for player jumping over a keeper and catching the keeper with their foot, that for me is not a penalty.
That's what VAR is there for.
Do you still believe Saka's was a foul and penalty? It sounds like you've changed your mind.
Salibatelli wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Salibatelli wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Salibatelli wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Salibatelli wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Didn't some of you say the goal we conceded to Villa wasn't a foul last week? Where is the consistency? If you're saying this is a foul then surely that Ramsdale one is a foul as well.
Same as said with Ramsdale, I thought he should have done better and been stronger. Football is a contact sport.
Ramsdale was holding the Villa player, I don’t see how that is the same thing, that incident just seemed like 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Erikssen wasn’t holding Odegaard, Odegaard just pushed him, I’ve posted a link to the video above FYI.
What was your view on the Saka situation?
I watched the video and still think it's soft.
I thought Ramsdale was soft and should have commanded his area better.
I think the Saka one is a penalty to me, he seems to get pulled down, it does look like there’s a bit of playacting in there as well which probably didn’t help him, it does look that way anyway, I’ve just watched it a few times over and in real time it looks odd, had to watch it a few times to work out why it looked so dramatic!
The Villa player is definitely holding Saka, what muddies the water a bit is what seems to be a bit of playacting, I don’t know why players do that, it makes what would be an easy decision harder.
Why does that make an easy decision harder if it's a foul? Also, why defend a bad decision? Players do the dramatics to draw attention to a contact and that should have gone to VAR and called as a penalty.
It makes it harder because actually you can’t be sure the player wasn’t pulled down if they throw themselves to the ground.
I’m not defending I’m saying it looked odd in real time, then when I watched it in slow motion several times it became clearer Saka threw himself to the ground.
If you’re giving the foul for holding then it’s a foul, if you’re giving it for being pulled down then it’s less clear, is he actually being pulled down or is he reacting to be held and throwing himself to the ground?
I don’t personally agree with fouls where a player just gets a light touch and falls over, it should be enough force to knock them off their feet.
You see penalties being given for player jumping over a keeper and catching the keeper with their foot, that for me is not a penalty.
That's what VAR is there for.
Do you still believe Saka's was a foul and penalty? It sounds like you've changed your mind.
If it’s for holding 100% yes, if it’s for being thrown to the ground I’m less sure because the playacting makes it harder to tell if he’s actually being pulled with enoug my force to fall over, but I’d still probably say yes.
I think the Odegaard one from today is different though, that’s a clear and obvious push with enough force to push Erikssen over, I’m 100% on that.
Shame because the Martinelli goal was Henryesque.
Power n Glory wrote:
Erikssen swung his arm out to try and shield the ball, Odegaard pushed Erikssen's arm away. It's soft.