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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby jayramfootball » Fri May 13, 2022 7:42 am

Penalty?
:lol:

Son is nowhere near the ball and swan diving before a very slight touch. He knew he was getting nowhere near it and dived.
Totally nonsensical decision.
10 penalties a game would be the norm if this was one and like I said the ref has the opportunity if he wants to, to always give a penalty to a team in a game.

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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby jayramfootball » Fri May 13, 2022 10:00 am

Turns out the ref actually gave the penalty for handball, when there wasn’t one.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Reiss » Fri May 13, 2022 11:00 am

jayramfootball wrote:Turns out the ref actually gave the penalty for handball, when there wasn’t one.


Are you serious?
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby StockGooner » Fri May 13, 2022 11:07 am

jayramfootball wrote:Turns out the ref actually gave the penalty for handball, when there wasn’t one.


Where's that come from?
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Nuggets » Fri May 13, 2022 12:44 pm

StockGooner wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:Turns out the ref actually gave the penalty for handball, when there wasn’t one.


Where's that come from?

Jay made it up :rofll:
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Santi » Fri May 13, 2022 1:25 pm

jayramfootball wrote:Penalty?
:lol:

Son is nowhere near the ball and swan diving before a very slight touch. He knew he was getting nowhere near it and dived.
Totally nonsensical decision.
10 penalties a game would be the norm if this was one and like I said the ref has the opportunity if he wants to, to always give a penalty to a team in a game.



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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby CaptGooner » Fri May 13, 2022 1:25 pm

Soft penalty, maybe gets called ~30% of the time. One of those where there is barely enough contact to not get overturned.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby jayramfootball » Fri May 13, 2022 1:33 pm

CaptGooner wrote:Soft penalty, maybe gets called ~30% of the time. One of those where there is barely enough contact to not get overturned.


Yep. Happens pretty much every game multiple times as defenders lean into forwards.
Referee was looking for the opportunity.
He and Mike Dean in VAR somehow missed the blatant elbow to the face of Holding, however.
Strange that.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Zenith » Fri May 13, 2022 3:35 pm


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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Salibatelli » Fri May 13, 2022 4:13 pm

Isn’t Clattenburg the ref that people didn’t rate on here and thought made awful decisions?

It was a penalty to most people as it was a foul, it even before that Spurs were on top anyway, it was only a matter of time before they scored against us.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby theHotHead » Fri May 13, 2022 4:45 pm

When was the last time an Arsenal red card or penalty given against us was not challenged ? Every single time someone has to disagree and use the "Arsenal hard done by" argument ! It was a blatant foul and I refer again to the fact that - if it were the other way round every single person claiming it wasn't a penalty yesterday would be screaming for the penalty and claiming ref injustice if we didn't get it.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby DiamondGooner » Fri May 13, 2022 4:52 pm

EliteKiller wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Didn’t matter what Holding did later.
After 11 minutes Son elbowed Holding in the face.
It was a blatant red card
Holding got to him and provoked a red card reaction.
The ref cheated and let Son off.

From 11 minutes we should have been at 0-0 playing against 10 men.
It’s that simple and unarguable.


"Didn’t matter what Holding did later" - that's what Holding thought - both of you are idiots


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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby DiamondGooner » Fri May 13, 2022 5:00 pm

jayramfootball wrote:11 minutes in at 0-0

Like I said , we should have been playing against 10 men with 79 minutes left at 0-0.
Ref (and VAR who was Mike Dean by the way) 100% dictated the result.



There are no rational explanations as to why Son was not sent off.
There is no way an Arsenal player would have got away with that.

As usual we have 'Arsenal; fans' here delighted that we lost and loving bias refs against us.


Not at all.

We just focus on the fact that they scored 3 and we managed none, no referee decisions are going to help us attack properly, Saka was poor and the difference in level between him and a WC player in Son was on full display, a level difference I've had to spoon feed and educate you on the difference of what a "good" player and WC looks like as you seem to not know, I hope you learned something.

In the end of the day the penalty was soft, but again, that doesn't mean it won't be given, it means its a 50/50 chance it'll be given and Son did a good job of selling it and Cedric looked cynical.

Holding however has no defence whatsoever, he lost his head trying to mark a WC player, its that simple, there was no need whatsoever for rough housing Son half way up the bloody pitch its ridiculous.

Arteta should of seen Holding was in trouble after the yellow card and hauled him off, problem solved.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Zenith » Fri May 13, 2022 5:50 pm

I don't think we've been denied stonewall decisions more than your average team, however, when Arsenal falling on the wrong end of 50-50, 60-40, and 70-30 decisions is, and has been, a topic of discussion amongst neutrals and even fans of rivalling clubs for over a year, you've got to consider there might be something to it -

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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Zenith » Fri May 13, 2022 5:57 pm

I don't buy the corruption angle, but for years and years the media (rightly so, to an extent) pushed the narrative that Arsenal teams are 'naive' and 'soft', particularly physically. That has changed in the last year or two: Arsenal have become a taller, more combative team, and have become significantly more dominant in both ground and aerial duels.

There's also an increase in cynicism and gamesmanship to Arsenal's play. Again, no obscene amount for a Premier League team, but it's that drastic change in style that challenges perception, and it influences the outcome of the decisions that are being made.

Modern Arsenal teams aren't supposed to have 'hard' or 'cynical' traits, and so there's a tendency for 50-50 calls, or 60-40 calls, to not go Arsenal's way. It's a classic case of Semmelweis effect. It'll pass, but only if we stick to those same principles for long enough and re-establish ourselves as a top-4 side.
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