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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Goonerred » Mon May 16, 2022 1:36 pm

https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-pre ... in-2020-21

We were third from bottom last season, but 5th from top so far this season on decisions overturned by VAR.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Santi » Mon May 16, 2022 1:42 pm

A table with Liverpool near the bottom of favourable ref decisions is immediately invalidated.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Zenith » Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:23 pm

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-go ... misconduct

Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the opponent’s path to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction when the ball is not within playing distance of either player.

A player may shield the ball by taking a position between an opponent and the ball if the ball is within playing distance and the opponent is not held off with the arms or body. If the ball is within playing distance, the player may be fairly charged by an opponent.


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Thankfully yesterday's dominant performance meant that we still won the game, in spite of the highly dubious officiating that went on. Last season we probably would have dropped points.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:34 pm

Zenith wrote:https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the opponent’s path to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction when the ball is not within playing distance of either player.

A player may shield the ball by taking a position between an opponent and the ball if the ball is within playing distance and the opponent is not held off with the arms or body. If the ball is within playing distance, the player may be fairly charged by an opponent.


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Thankfully yesterday's dominant performance meant that we still won the game, in spite of the highly dubious officiating that went on. Last season we probably would have dropped points.


The first point there is the key one.
It’s why refs often stop a corner being taken to warn players for overly aggressive jostling for position.
What happened to Ramsdale was foul play and it WILL be given as such many many time this season.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Salibatelli » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:41 pm

Ramsdale was also holding the player it wasn’t a foul one way or the other, it was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Santi » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:12 pm

lol
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Nejch » Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:00 pm

Boggles the mind how VAR officials can look at Mings throwing Saka to the ground in the box and that other player holding Ramsdale in place with the million different angles they have and conclude that's fair play. VAR has been dodgy AF, for every wrong decision they correct they make one even more controversial
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:35 am

I had a feeling that it would not take long before a decision to disallow a goal because of a touch on a goalkeeper would come. I wasn’t disappointed.
Ramsdale is backed into and held to impede him getting the ball - no foul.
Chelsea keeper gets touched after going to ground and spilling the ball. Foul and disallowed goal.
Goalkeepers are protected - except ours.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby alexafc12 » Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:46 am

Really glad to see Moyes questioning the competence of 'elite' Premier League officials.

It's a real issue in this country. Our officials just aren't up to standard. These are paid and trained officials at the top of their profession and yet game after game they are making horrible decisions. It's inexcusable and needs addressing.

I said a few years ago. VAR will expose the incompetence of officiating in this country. It's not a lack of technology. It's a lack of competence across the profession.

How - with the opportunity to rewatch incidents - are we still in a position where week after week there is a incorrect decision that effects the outcome of a game.

Premier League has the best players. We need to now match that with level of officials - shouldn't matter where they are from. This is a global league.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Ach » Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:31 pm

Shearer saying Howe was too nice in his reaction to the diabolical decision to disallow their goal
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Salibatelli » Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:01 pm

alexafc12 wrote:Really glad to see Moyes questioning the competence of 'elite' Premier League officials.

It's a real issue in this country. Our officials just aren't up to standard. These are paid and trained officials at the top of their profession and yet game after game they are making horrible decisions. It's inexcusable and needs addressing.

I said a few years ago. VAR will expose the incompetence of officiating in this country. It's not a lack of technology. It's a lack of competence across the profession.

How - with the opportunity to rewatch incidents - are we still in a position where week after week there is a incorrect decision that effects the outcome of a game.

Premier League has the best players. We need to now match that with level of officials - shouldn't matter where they are from. This is a global league.


The refs are pretty poor, but it’s a widespread thing in the PL not some weird conspiracy against Arsenal as some seem to think.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:16 pm

Absolute travesty for our goal to be disallowed.
Midfielders jostle each other all the time with free kicks not being given. Once again ANY reason to tip the scales against Arsenal taken by the officials.

If that is a foul then ALL contact is a foul.

McGuire made more contact on Eddie in the penalty area. No one thought that was a penalty and rightly so.
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Losmeister » Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:22 pm

alexafc12 wrote:Really glad to see Moyes questioning the competence of 'elite' Premier League officials.

It's a real issue in this country. Our officials just aren't up to standard. These are paid and trained officials at the top of their profession and yet game after game they are making horrible decisions. It's inexcusable and needs addressing.

I said a few years ago. VAR will expose the incompetence of officiating in this country. It's not a lack of technology. It's a lack of competence across the profession.

How - with the opportunity to rewatch incidents - are we still in a position where week after week there is a incorrect decision that effects the outcome of a game.

Premier League has the best players. We need to now match that with level of officials - shouldn't matter where they are from. This is a global league.


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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby Losmeister » Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:26 pm

"The refs are pretty poor, but it’s a widespread thing in the PL not some weird conspiracy against Arsenal as some seem to think."

I'd gather I'd be included in the "conspiracy" group. But i dont think that.
I think we are unfortunate to have such a level of gray area decisions and that the balance doesnt work out well FOR AFC...is s statistical anomaly as inexplainable as the fcat that thoiugh a coin flip over time is 50/50 you still get runs of 6 and 7 over 100 flips.

Maybe in past we were favored in these calls and its just comingz round to 50/50??
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Re: Major Refereeing Decisions

Postby VCC » Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:30 pm

Losmeister wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:Really glad to see Moyes questioning the competence of 'elite' Premier League officials.

It's a real issue in this country. Our officials just aren't up to standard. These are paid and trained officials at the top of their profession and yet game after game they are making horrible decisions. It's inexcusable and needs addressing.

I said a few years ago. VAR will expose the incompetence of officiating in this country. It's not a lack of technology. It's a lack of competence across the profession.

How - with the opportunity to rewatch incidents - are we still in a position where week after week there is a incorrect decision that effects the outcome of a game.

Premier League has the best players. We need to now match that with level of officials - shouldn't matter where they are from. This is a global league.


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Sums it up well and i dont want to get into a they got this decission so should i, stick 100 % to the rules or establish what is acceptable and stick to it, interprotation of rules is the grey area that needs sorting.
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