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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby Salibatelli » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:31 am

jayramfootball wrote:
Özim wrote:Laca is probably playing for a move since he knows he’s on a free next summer, players have a tendency to do that.


I thought performances were down to the manager?
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Not when the guy doesn’t play him, he barely ever gets a game these days!

He probably can’t wait to move on and get some game time!l, so he can play on the role he should be playing.
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:34 am

Özim wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Özim wrote:Laca is probably playing for a move since he knows he’s on a free next summer, players have a tendency to do that.


I thought performances were down to the manager?
:think:


Not when the guy doesn’t play him, he barely ever gets a game these days!

He probably can’t wait to move on and get some game time!l, so he can play on the role he should be playing.


I see, so subs performances are not the manager but starters are...
All very strange, lol.
I am sure there will be some other nuance when required. :lol:
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby Salibatelli » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:43 am

Which bit don’t you get?

The guy is holding us back, he’s a shocking manager, I’m shocked anyone supports this guy when we’re going down the pan under him.

How anyone can still want this guy around after 2 years of the same rubbish I don’t know.

We were outclassed last night, by a team that sold half its squad in the summer and didn’t have their best player, digest that, Brighton did the same, as did Brentford, Chelsea, City. It’s shocking to be this bad.


He spent 160 million and a few games in most of his signings look error prone and not ready. Something is wrong and it’s not the players!
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:46 am

Özim wrote:Which bit don’t you get?

The guy is holding us back, he’s a shocking manager, I’m shocked anyone supports this guy when we’re going down the pan under him.

How anyone can still want this guy around after 2 years of the same rubbish I don’t know.

We were outclassed last night, by a team that sold half its squad in the summer and didn’t have their best player, digest that, Brighton did the same, as did Brentford, Chelsea, City. It’s shocking to be this bad.


He spent 160 million and a few games in most of his signings look error prone and not ready. Something is wrong and it’s not the players!


Lol, a complete change of subject onto generic Arteta bad and the usual canned talking points.

I get it - when a player plays badly it;s Arteta's fault.
When they play well, it's not anything to do with Arteta - in fact it's still Arteta bad
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby Salibatelli » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:54 am

You don’t get it, the guy is clueless, he’s getting no credit from me for this absolute mess, if you think I or anyone logical is going to give someone credit when we finished 8th twice, aren’t in Europe and are 12th after 8 games having played well for 45 minutes you’ve got another thing coming.

Our season is a disaster so far, one man to blame.
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:57 am

Özim wrote:You don’t get it, the guy is clueless, he’s getting no credit from me for this absolute mess, if you think I or anyone logical is going to give someone credit when we finished 8th twice, aren’t in Europe and are 12th after 8 games having played well for 45 minutes you’ve got another thing coming.

Our season is a disaster so far, one man to blame.


Yeah yeah - your bot level responses are not really relevant.

Your new rule seems to be that it's the players if they are subs and the manager for the starters.
Like I said - I am sure it will shift again when required.
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby theHotHead » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:58 am

jayramfootball wrote:
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Nuggets wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:Remains the same.
Unbeaten in 5 now and team again showed character.
Players really playing for the manager until the last minute.
80%


You gorra stop smoking that shit is doing your head in. lol


Talking about doing heads in...

Laca!!

Loved how much he played for the team when he came on, despite not playing much.
Must really love the manager.

LOL you joker. It was his professionalism, nothing more. He is an emotional player, showed the same under Emery too


So not the manager then?
Hmm.
Funny that.

An individual player playing to his potential, no. A team playing to their potential - yes.

Was OGS the reason Ronaldo and Greenwood scored their goals ? Nope.
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:02 am

theHotHead wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Nuggets wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:Remains the same.
Unbeaten in 5 now and team again showed character.
Players really playing for the manager until the last minute.
80%


You gorra stop smoking that shit is doing your head in. lol


Talking about doing heads in...

Laca!!

Loved how much he played for the team when he came on, despite not playing much.
Must really love the manager.

LOL you joker. It was his professionalism, nothing more. He is an emotional player, showed the same under Emery too


So not the manager then?
Hmm.
Funny that.

An individual player playing to his potential, no. A team playing to their potential - yes.

Was OGS the reason Ronaldo and Greenwood scored their goals ? Nope.


Mental gymnastics.
You know my view - it's the players.
But, the shifting sands and goal-seeking to Arteta bad is funny.
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby theHotHead » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:34 am

jayramfootball wrote:
Mental gymnastics.
You know my view - it's the players.
But, the shifting sands and goal-seeking to Arteta bad is funny.

You can't accuse me of that - my view hasn't changed. When the team plays well thats down to the manager, my view has not moved and neither have the goal posts. A player can play well "in spite of the manager" though, which is pretty obvious.
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:00 pm

theHotHead wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Mental gymnastics.
You know my view - it's the players.
But, the shifting sands and goal-seeking to Arteta bad is funny.

You can't accuse me of that - my view hasn't changed. When the team plays well thats down to the manager, my view has not moved and neither have the goal posts. A player can play well "in spite of the manager" though, which is pretty obvious.


Nice way of trying to have it both ways HH

Lacazette on Arteta yesterday:
"We trust him, we know he is going to give us a solution"

Frankly, you can tell the players have complete trust in the manager and are playing for him.
It's down to the players, where a manager helps is by keeping the players happy. Arteta is succeeding in that, even with Lacazette who is not getting game time.
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby theHotHead » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:12 pm

Dude I gave Arteta and Arteta alone the plaudits for our win against Tottenham. I have been nothing but consistent.
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:29 pm

theHotHead wrote:Dude I gave Arteta and Arteta alone the plaudits for our win against Tottenham. I have been nothing but consistent.


Then stay consistent.
If a substitute is kept happy and performs then you have to give credit to the manager instead of trying to look for other reasons.
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby Dejan » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:58 pm

still 0%

simply not good enough
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby Hypergooner » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:29 pm

40%. We Don't look stable but results don't lie. We are unbeaten since our terrible first 3 games. If we only loose 2 more this side of Christmas we have a chance of finishing well.

I said at the start of the season, we can loose 8 and finish top 6 or better
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Re: The Percentage Behind the Manager Thread

Postby theHotHead » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:10 am

jayramfootball wrote:
theHotHead wrote:Dude I gave Arteta and Arteta alone the plaudits for our win against Tottenham. I have been nothing but consistent.


Then stay consistent.
If a substitute is kept happy and performs then you have to give credit to the manager instead of trying to look for other reasons.

If Laca is as happy as you claim lets see if he pushes for a move away from the club. I think we both know the answer to that.

A solitary player playing well and the rest of the team playing shite doesn't warrant praising the manager, its most likely down to the player playing to his level when everyone else is below their's. Thats why when the TEAM play well the manager should get the plaudits.
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