Losmeister wrote:I imagine the Queens of Whinge are at it in full force...
in between shining their personal trophy cabinets which are chock full from them winning everything every year in their real lives....

I'll have some of this, seeing as you have used the example, I will expand upon it.
The definition of success for a so-called top level or pro sports person is what they win, trophies, whats the definition of success for "normal" people? A pay rise? A good job, a nice car or house, the ability to go on nice holidays ? Mental stability/ strength?
You get the picture. Pretty sure lots of people on this forum have, according to the definition of success for us - been successful.