Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Discuss anything Arsenal-related. Tune in to get the latest news, and discuss results, performances, tactics, etc.

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Salibatelli » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:40 pm

jayramfootball wrote:l


‘On course to’ is not a prediction.
It’s a fact.
Right now at our current scoring rate we’ll get around 85 goals.
A rate is a rate, not an outcome for the end of the season.
We have more this season at this stage than last season though.
Quite humiliating for anyone who predicted and kept harping on that we couldn’t score goals this season at the same rate. :sneaky2:


You’ve done this repeatedly over the years and without fail it’s blown up in your face, you should probably learn your lesson and just hold back from stuff like this.

These things are meaningless because seasons aren’t linear, you can’t predict end of season totals by what you’ve achieved so far, for a start the sample is too small and in football things change regularly.

People who were concerned about the lack of a CF were right, the goals have been heavily skewed by a few freak results against teams that didn’t show up which seems to be more of a thing this season.

Whilst the overall quality higher up is better there’s a few teams who seem to specialise in some of these freakish results, Sheff Utd being one.

West Ham themselves got hit for 4 by Fulham, so whilst they are capable of decent performances, when they don’t turn up like today results are awful.
Salibatelli
Member of the Year 2023
Member of the Year 2023
 
Posts: 15763
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:26 pm

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby ag6789 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:46 pm

Arsenal are a better all round team than most , and that's why we are getting results. It is not a fluke.
ag6789
Tony Adams
Tony Adams
 
Posts: 4768
Joined: Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:09 pm

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Salibatelli » Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:59 pm

MOTD just analysed the match and ripped into West Ham just like everyone else has. Their observations

- Defending at set pieces they didn’t adapt at all, we had all our big men at the back and they kept their 3 biggest defenders at the front post , eventually we scored but the same thing happened at 3 corners before we did, they also sat too close to the keeper

- For the Gabriel goal Zooma was ball watching plays us onside and their defensive line wasn’t even in line to start with

- They showed no hunger when coming forward with players offering no option and not having any urgency to run forward so the front two were totally isolated, in the end they just lumped it forward straight to our keeper or players

- Even when they had opportunities to pass into space everything was safe passes backwards or sideways which then encouraged us forward knowing there was zero threat

- The defending on Saka wasn’t good either they left him 1 on 1 with Emerson all the time

- They gave us much too much space and just didn’t get close enough.
Salibatelli
Member of the Year 2023
Member of the Year 2023
 
Posts: 15763
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:26 pm

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby swipe right » Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:06 am

What do we think about The Angel? I used to cringe when the club tried to push London Calling. But this seems more natural. What’s the atmosphere like in the stadium?
swipe right
Dennis Bergkamp
Dennis Bergkamp
 
Posts: 7595
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:05 am

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:26 am

Best song out there
Ach
SE13
SE13
 
Posts: 35130
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:25 pm

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby VCC » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:44 am

Beats the hell out of forever blowing f***ing bubbles,
User avatar
VCC
Arsène Wenger
Arsène Wenger
 
Posts: 15198
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:04 am

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:46 am

Salibatelli wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:l


‘On course to’ is not a prediction.
It’s a fact.
Right now at our current scoring rate we’ll get around 85 goals.
A rate is a rate, not an outcome for the end of the season.
We have more this season at this stage than last season though.
Quite humiliating for anyone who predicted and kept harping on that we couldn’t score goals this season at the same rate. :sneaky2:


You’ve done this repeatedly over the years and without fail it’s blown up in your face, you should probably learn your lesson and just hold back from stuff like this.

These things are meaningless because seasons aren’t linear, you can’t predict end of season totals by what you’ve achieved so far, for a start the sample is too small and in football things change regularly.

People who were concerned about the lack of a CF were right, the goals have been heavily skewed by a few freak results against teams that didn’t show up which seems to be more of a thing this season.

Whilst the overall quality higher up is better there’s a few teams who seem to specialise in some of these freakish results, Sheff Utd being one.

West Ham themselves got hit for 4 by Fulham, so whilst they are capable of decent performances, when they don’t turn up like today results are awful.


Once again not a prediction, just a run rate to highlight that your actual prediction of doom that we can’t score and would struggle to score was - as usual - wrong.

I have pointed out all season, we look more balanced this year.

The manager has made some changes that have improved us.

We’re still scoring goals at a rate matching our best ever PL goal scoring season and we look more controlled in games and less likely to concede.

Good management.
User avatar
jayramfootball
Member of the Year 2021
Member of the Year 2021
 
Posts: 26239
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:58 pm

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Jedi » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:05 am

Salibatelli wrote:MOTD just analysed the match and ripped into West Ham just like everyone else has. Their observations

- Defending at set pieces they didn’t adapt at all, we had all our big men at the back and they kept their 3 biggest defenders at the front post , eventually we scored but the same thing happened at 3 corners before we did, they also sat too close to the keeper

- For the Gabriel goal Zooma was ball watching plays us onside and their defensive line wasn’t even in line to start with

- They showed no hunger when coming forward with players offering no option and not having any urgency to run forward so the front two were totally isolated, in the end they just lumped it forward straight to our keeper or players

- Even when they had opportunities to pass into space everything was safe passes backwards or sideways which then encouraged us forward knowing there was zero threat

- The defending on Saka wasn’t good either they left him 1 on 1 with Emerson all the time

- They gave us much too much space and just didn’t get close enough.

Yeah, nobody wins 6-0 vs a team that played optimally. Apparently this was their worst loss since '67.

For a scoreline like that to happen you really need two things to happen.

1) The team getting the trashing need to play subpar.

2) But, equally, the team destroying them need to put up an unbelievable performance.

Both of those happened yesterday.
User avatar
Jedi
Bertie Mee
Bertie Mee
 
Posts: 8045
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:47 pm

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Salibatelli » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:18 am

Jedi wrote:Yeah, nobody wins 6-0 vs a team that played optimally. Apparently this was their worst loss since '67.

For a scoreline like that to happen you really need two things to happen.

1) The team getting the trashing need to play subpar.

2) But, equally, the team destroying them need to put up an unbelievable performance.

Both of those happened yesterday.


Yes very true, we were excellent, probably our best performance of the season, we completely dominated, but for West Ham after we scored the first goal they totally fell apart, it wasn’t the fact they were subpar, it was more the fact they lacked any kind of desire, even in the 2nd half you expected them to come out fired up after a disastrous end to the first half, but they were still a couple yards off the pace not breaking a sweat.

It’s rare to see that, you do see teams getting outclassed but not many teams that show a lack of pride like that, this was in front of their home fans as well.

Moyes out of contract in the summer and the tide has turned against him somewhat recently and his job is hanging by a thread, even thought his interview was a bit defeatist, I expected him to be much more vocal than he was.
Salibatelli
Member of the Year 2023
Member of the Year 2023
 
Posts: 15763
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:26 pm

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby VCC » Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:19 pm

Moyes job is safe gone from almost relegation to top 8 and a European trophy still in top half of the table,
User avatar
VCC
Arsène Wenger
Arsène Wenger
 
Posts: 15198
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:04 am

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:29 pm

swipe right wrote:What do we think about The Angel? I used to cringe when the club tried to push London Calling. But this seems more natural. What’s the atmosphere like in the stadium?

Recorded a video after the Liverpool game. No idea how to put it on here though

Great song
Ach
SE13
SE13
 
Posts: 35130
Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:25 pm

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Salibatelli » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:24 pm

VCC wrote:Moyes job is safe gone from almost relegation to top 8 and a European trophy still in top half of the table,


You say that but West Ham fans don’t like his brand of football and he’s also out of contract in the summer. They shipped 5 goals against Fulham, 3 against Man U, 6 against us and for beaten by Bristol City and this is with a manager that plays a more defensive game.

They also realstically can only qualify for Europe by winning the EL now, so it could be a poor season for them especially with results like those against us and Fulham.
Salibatelli
Member of the Year 2023
Member of the Year 2023
 
Posts: 15763
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:26 pm

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:50 pm

swipe right wrote:What do we think about The Angel? I used to cringe when the club tried to push London Calling. But this seems more natural. What’s the atmosphere like in the stadium?


I think its about time a 100 year old Football club like ours had a worthy anthem.

Yeah I think its decent and its organic as the song was made by a local.
Image
User avatar
DiamondGooner
SE13
SE13
 
Posts: 30298
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:35 am
Location: At the Gucci store

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby UFGN » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:25 am

DiamondGooner wrote:
swipe right wrote:What do we think about The Angel? I used to cringe when the club tried to push London Calling. But this seems more natural. What’s the atmosphere like in the stadium?


I think its about time a 100 year old Football club like ours had a worthy anthem.

Yeah I think its decent and its organic as the song was made by a local.


The chorus is ok but the verses are cringe.

A 30 year old son of a millionaire actress, singing about some aspects of London life that he can't possibly remember, in an affected Cockney accent that I'm pretty sure isn't his real speaking voice

Eeeeew!

138 years old btw
Corinthians 15:57; But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus

Image
User avatar
UFGN
Member of the Year 2014, 2019
Member of the Year 2014, 2019
 
Posts: 23288
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:46 pm
Location: London, init

Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby swipe right » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:27 am

Auba currently on 15 goals and 7 assists.
Trust the process.
swipe right
Dennis Bergkamp
Dennis Bergkamp
 
Posts: 7595
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:05 am

PreviousNext

Return to Arsenal Talk

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests