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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby Losmeister » Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:40 am

ag6789 wrote:Reportedly he is willing to fight it out for a spot and has worked hard. Still he'll be firmly starting from the bench with number of players ahead of him and also we've bolstered our wings w/ Marquinhos.
27 goals and 21 assis in 112 ( in all comps, majority probably in cups and EU lge), not terribly bad. See where this goes.


a squad player, not more. Marquinos gonna kick his arse.
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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby KG3 » Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:53 am

DiamondGooner wrote:Needs to go BUT there was a player in there.

Great left foot shot, good ball to feet skills etc, if he had the right manager who knew what to do with him I think he'd of done decent.

He may be a LW in the French league but in the hard pressing prem I think he didn't manage the tracking back very well, he's an offensive player, def better in this league deployed as a WF.


theHotHead wrote:Potentially a brilliant player, the system hasnt worked for him, we were lightweight at the back and that compromised him because it exposed many things.



Nothing to do with the system or the manager he’s just not good enough for this league, simple as that, his good performances have only come in the French league/Europa league simply because you get more time and space against that level of opposition, Whereas in the prem theirs no time to be slow with your decisions or space to run into.

The only thing that will do him well is a change of league. It’s time to cut our loses. Pepes minutes last season should have been used to develop Omari Hutchinson, shame the kids gone to Chelsea he’s going to be a top winger, more talented than Saka/Martinelli imo
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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby swipe right » Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:57 am

He had one decent season in France and our idiots forked out 72 mil. Pretty sure it’s what got Raul fired. He’s a 20 mil player on a good day.
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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby UFGN » Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:11 pm

Eeeghh still two years on this guy's contract. I was hoping it was one so at least he could just leave at the end of the season

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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby Rockape » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:50 am

It was a shock from the very start when the deal was announced......I mean £72M on someone who was pretty much unheard of and untested. What a waste!
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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:03 pm

Rockape wrote:It was a shock from the very start when the deal was announced......I mean £72M on someone who was pretty much unheard of and untested. What a waste!


We're spending the same amount on Vieira and Pino, both also young and unproven.

As for Pepe, he was joint top scorer in 19/20 and barely got game time the year after. He's been made to look far worse than he is because the manager doesn't like him, and makes that clear to the world.

His numbers are on par with Werner's, yet Chelsea have gotten €25m selling him back to Leipzig, simply by not shit-talking him across Europe.

We won't get anything for Pepe because he is already persona non Grata. The club has done the same PR offensive that they did with Auba, trying to convince everyone that he's finished, while ignoring the Pepe-less clown show that had us finish behind Spurs.
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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby #ST » Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:33 pm

Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Rockape wrote:It was a shock from the very start when the deal was announced......I mean £72M on someone who was pretty much unheard of and untested. What a waste!


We're spending the same amount on Vieira and Pino, both also young and unproven.

As for Pepe, he was joint top scorer in 19/20 and barely got game time the year after. He's been made to look far worse than he is because the manager doesn't like him, and makes that clear to the world.

His numbers are on par with Werner's, yet Chelsea have gotten €25m selling him back to Leipzig, simply by not shit-talking him across Europe.

We won't get anything for Pepe because he is already persona non Grata. The club has done the same PR offensive that they did with Auba, trying to convince everyone that he's finished, while ignoring the Pepe-less clown show that had us finish behind Spurs.



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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby themessiah » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:56 pm

Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Rockape wrote:It was a shock from the very start when the deal was announced......I mean £72M on someone who was pretty much unheard of and untested. What a waste!


We're spending the same amount on Vieira and Pino, both also young and unproven.

As for Pepe, he was joint top scorer in 19/20 and barely got game time the year after. He's been made to look far worse than he is because the manager doesn't like him, and makes that clear to the world.

His numbers are on par with Werner's, yet Chelsea have gotten €25m selling him back to Leipzig, simply by not shit-talking him across Europe.

We won't get anything for Pepe because he is already persona non Grata. The club has done the same PR offensive that they did with Auba, trying to convince everyone that he's finished, while ignoring the Pepe-less clown show that had us finish behind Spurs.
Even in that season which pepe scored 10 goals and had 2 assists he scored 3 braces in the last 3 games season tbf and we basically had nothing to play for in end of the season par when we got knocked out by Villarreal in the Europa. He Was awful for 85 percentage of that season tbf. Let’s not sugar coat it Just a poor signing tbf.
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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:12 pm

themessiah wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Rockape wrote:It was a shock from the very start when the deal was announced......I mean £72M on someone who was pretty much unheard of and untested. What a waste!


We're spending the same amount on Vieira and Pino, both also young and unproven.

As for Pepe, he was joint top scorer in 19/20 and barely got game time the year after. He's been made to look far worse than he is because the manager doesn't like him, and makes that clear to the world.

His numbers are on par with Werner's, yet Chelsea have gotten €25m selling him back to Leipzig, simply by not shit-talking him across Europe.

We won't get anything for Pepe because he is already persona non Grata. The club has done the same PR offensive that they did with Auba, trying to convince everyone that he's finished, while ignoring the Pepe-less clown show that had us finish behind Spurs.
Even in that season which pepe scored 10 goals and had 2 assists he scored 3 braces in the last 3 games season tbf and we basically had nothing to play for in end of the season par when we got knocked out by Villarreal in the Europa. He Was awful for 85 percentage of that season tbf. Let’s not sugar coat it Just a poor signing tbf.


Nothing to play for? Arteta would have overseen one of Arsenal's worst ever points totals had we not won our final 5 games.

50% of Jesus' goals last season came in 1 game against a team that was relegated. Is that worth £200k and £45m?
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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby Power n Glory » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:27 pm

themessiah wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Rockape wrote:It was a shock from the very start when the deal was announced......I mean £72M on someone who was pretty much unheard of and untested. What a waste!


We're spending the same amount on Vieira and Pino, both also young and unproven.

As for Pepe, he was joint top scorer in 19/20 and barely got game time the year after. He's been made to look far worse than he is because the manager doesn't like him, and makes that clear to the world.

His numbers are on par with Werner's, yet Chelsea have gotten €25m selling him back to Leipzig, simply by not shit-talking him across Europe.

We won't get anything for Pepe because he is already persona non Grata. The club has done the same PR offensive that they did with Auba, trying to convince everyone that he's finished, while ignoring the Pepe-less clown show that had us finish behind Spurs.
Even in that season which pepe scored 10 goals and had 2 assists he scored 3 braces in the last 3 games season tbf and we basically had nothing to play for in end of the season par when we got knocked out by Villarreal in the Europa. He Was awful for 85 percentage of that season tbf. Let’s not sugar coat it Just a poor signing tbf.


We've struggled to create and score goals. We just missed out on 4th last season because of that. Even if he's not everyone's cup of tea, it's difficult to name another player in the squad capable of scoring 16 goals in a season.

Last season Saka scored 12, Smith Rowe 11, Martinelli 6. I don't think any of them did enough to justify restricting Pépé's minutes to just over 950 minutes. He should have earned himself more credit considering the progress he made last season. Also, he was in hot form during the AFCON and Arteta even said himself he looked a different player. He came off the bench vs Wolves to score and set up the winner so we win 2-1 but still ends up on the bench playing less minutes in the next few games.
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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby Rockape » Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:59 pm

It’s not that he’s not my cup of tea, it’s that he’s largely ineffectual for most of the game. His attempts to tackle or even close down are laughable and when he does have the ball he’s crowded out a lot of the time.

Sure, he’s produced moments of magic occasionally and is a talented player, but he’s just not up the the standard required.
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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby Power n Glory » Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:27 pm

Rockape wrote:It’s not that he’s not my cup of tea, it’s that he’s largely ineffectual for most of the game. His attempts to tackle or even close down are laughable and when he does have the ball he’s crowded out a lot of the time.

Sure, he’s produced moments of magic occasionally and is a talented player, but he’s just not up the the standard required.


There are a lot of players not up to the standard at the moment. We've been far off our target for a while. But if you can admit he has talent and produced magical moments, the coaching staff have to work on a way of getting more of that out of him. Letting him rot on the bench just further plummets his value and confidence.
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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby theHotHead » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:39 pm

You can't ignore the number of goals he scored in his last season in France, some of those goals were fantastic too. He has talent, that cannot and shouldn't be ignored, in a mediocre season he scored 16 goals, that tells you he has ability.

This story is being told too often, good players underperforming, why ??? The answer should be obvious, there is a common denominator here who seems clueless how to get the best out of his offensive players.
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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby TedLasso » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:45 pm

Pepe can definitely shoot with his left foot super well. He doesn't contribute much else though.
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Re: Nicolas Pépé (19)

Postby UFGN » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:58 pm

It would have made sense to use him more when Auba was busy being useless......at least given him a chance off the bench more often, moving Martinelli to CF

From his own POV now he needs to find a loan or transfer this window, or his career is done.
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