Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Est83 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:59 pm

Debut stats:

81% pass accuracy
2 key passes
2/3 long balls completed
3/4 ground duels won
1/1 aerial duels won
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:35 pm

^^ Do his stats really matter? He ain't coming back.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Fran Solo » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:02 pm

I strongly believe most of our players can be a better player under different coach, especially if they are still hungry to prove themselves. Just look at other players deemed not good enough to play for us such as Mavropanos, Guendouzi, Willock and Saliba.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:38 pm

Fran Solo wrote:I strongly believe most of our players can be a better player under different coach, especially if they are still hungry to prove themselves. Just look at other players deemed not good enough to play for us such as Mavropanos, Guendouzi, Willock and Saliba.


Bellerin's contract expires in the summer, so it's a moot point. He's not in the Mavro/Saliba category, he's an Arsenal veteran who we've seen play under several managers.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Arsenal Tone » Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:26 pm

Est83 wrote:
Arsenal Tone wrote:Another Wenger player gone. Another defender whose best attributes were attacking attributes.

Nothing against him, just we all know Wenger was more worried about full backs getting forward than being able to defend. Hopefully Tomiyasu will offer more protection to the defence and allow the right winger more freedom to attack.


Cole
Clichy
Lauren
Sagna
Monreal

Some of the best to have ever played in this league. Not saying he hasn't picked some bad ones (Santos was definitely a winger!), but even the likes of Eboue was defensively solid, and Kola is clearly more suited to the defensive side of the game.

Wouldn't agree with your point, personally.


Cole, clichy and lauren were all wing backs rather than defenders, better at attacking than defending. Sagna was top notch tbf. Monreal was 'decent' but nowhere near world class.

Eboue was not defensively solid btw. Kola came in as an attacking left back, no idea why Arteta plays him at CB.
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Partey/Sambi--???/???
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby swipe right » Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:53 am

Arsenal Tone wrote:
Est83 wrote:
Arsenal Tone wrote:Another Wenger player gone. Another defender whose best attributes were attacking attributes.

Nothing against him, just we all know Wenger was more worried about full backs getting forward than being able to defend. Hopefully Tomiyasu will offer more protection to the defence and allow the right winger more freedom to attack.


Cole
Clichy
Lauren
Sagna
Monreal

Some of the best to have ever played in this league. Not saying he hasn't picked some bad ones (Santos was definitely a winger!), but even the likes of Eboue was defensively solid, and Kola is clearly more suited to the defensive side of the game.

Wouldn't agree with your point, personally.


Cole, clichy and lauren were all wing backs rather than defenders, better at attacking than defending. Sagna was top notch tbf. Monreal was 'decent' but nowhere near world class.

Eboue was not defensively solid btw. Kola came in as an attacking left back, no idea why Arteta plays him at CB.

The role today is about attacking and width. Look at Liverpool ffs they won they cL and pl that way. Wenger was ahead of his time.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Fran Solo » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:43 am

Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Fran Solo wrote:I strongly believe most of our players can be a better player under different coach, especially if they are still hungry to prove themselves. Just look at other players deemed not good enough to play for us such as Mavropanos, Guendouzi, Willock and Saliba.


Bellerin's contract expires in the summer, so it's a moot point. He's not in the Mavro/Saliba category, he's an Arsenal veteran who we've seen play under several managers.


No, he's not in that bracket. He is in the Mkhitaryan, Coquelin bracket. Lol.
And off course I don't want him back.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Ach » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:49 pm

Spanish right-back Hector Bellerin, 26, has hinted he has no intention of returning to Arsenal when his season-long loan at Real Betis ends. (El Desmarque, via Mail)


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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby theHotHead » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:02 pm

Eboue was a brilliant RB
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby swipe right » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:34 pm

Ach wrote:
Spanish right-back Hector Bellerin, 26, has hinted he has no intention of returning to Arsenal when his season-long loan at Real Betis ends. (El Desmarque, via Mail)


Don't blame him

You mean they aren’t in awe of our 31 games form over in Spain?
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Fran Solo » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:13 am

Fran Solo wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Fran Solo wrote:I strongly believe most of our players can be a better player under different coach, especially if they are still hungry to prove themselves. Just look at other players deemed not good enough to play for us such as Mavropanos, Guendouzi, Willock and Saliba.


Bellerin's contract expires in the summer, so it's a moot point. He's not in the Mavro/Saliba category, he's an Arsenal veteran who we've seen play under several managers.


No, he's not in that bracket. He is in the Mkhitaryan, Coquelin bracket. Lol.
And off course I don't want him back.


Even Mkhitaryan and Coquelin play better with their current team. Just saying.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Santi » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:57 am

Man Bellerin is shit, of course she aint coming back...because she’s not wanted.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby starmandb » Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:48 pm

Fran Solo wrote:
Fran Solo wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Fran Solo wrote:I strongly believe most of our players can be a better player under different coach, especially if they are still hungry to prove themselves. Just look at other players deemed not good enough to play for us such as Mavropanos, Guendouzi, Willock and Saliba.


Bellerin's contract expires in the summer, so it's a moot point. He's not in the Mavro/Saliba category, he's an Arsenal veteran who we've seen play under several managers.


No, he's not in that bracket. He is in the Mkhitaryan, Coquelin bracket. Lol.
And off course I don't want him back.


Even Mkhitaryan and Coquelin play better with their current team. Just saying.

Coquelin has not been better at Villarreal than he was at arsenal
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