The decline of Arsenal FC

[theHotHead]

I bet Forest and Rovers fans are thinking they’ll bounce back too. But it’s never inevitable. Nobody has a divine right to be at the top. We were for many years because footballing professionals ran the club. But we then got a businessman owner who came to make money and surrounded himself with charlatans. Turns out he’s good at inheriting money, not making it.

Mate you can't compare either club with Arsenal, our following has always been bigger than theirs, much much bigger, thats why it won't happen to Arsenal.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

Wigan's FA Cup victory v City in 2013 coincided with their PL relegation. They haven't been seen since.

Manager aside, the awful attitude in the team is a problem that was here during Wenger and got worse as we kept filling the squad with players that know they won't do any better than Arsenal.

If we end up selling the likes of Saka, ESR, Saliba and Martinelli, then I could see us being mid-table for a generation.

[ag6789]

If we end up selling our young prospects, we could get relegated. They are the blood and soul who can bring us back to contention, not mercenaries like Auba, Willian,etc.

[Salibatelli]

There won’t be any recovery next season by the looks of it as it seems they want to stick with a losing manager.

So much change needed, owner, manager, guys above manager.

Some players need to go as well, it’s a big job but can’t see anything happening soon, club hasn’t had any ambition since Kroenke arrived, this is something that’s been in the pipeline for years.

You won’t get anywhere with such disinterested owners, don’t know why they want to hold onto this club, they have zero interest in it and now the money is drying up as well.

To be honest, starting a new club is probably going to be easier, the Kroenkes seem adamant they want to continue with this failed project, I really dislike so much about this club nowadays, it’s a shadow of what it use to be.

One of the worst clubs in football today, they just take and give nothing back.

[ag6789]

Don't think Arte's job is guaranteed anymore. Most people, including the pundits wanted to give him a whole season to monitor the progress. But things have stalled so he could be relieved anytime now.
Think he is under scrutiny right now.

[Nuggets]

[quote="ag6789"]Don't think Arte's job is guaranteed anymore. Most people, including the pundits wanted to give him a whole season to monitor the progress. But things have stalled so he could be relieved anytime now.
Think he is under scrutiny right now.[/quote]


We can only pray

[jayramfootball]

We'll see a big improvement next year - calling it now.
Our core young players will be a year older and will have gone through a full preseason in the knowledge they are first-team regulars.
Top 6 for sure. Pushing for top 4.
It will take a few years to get to challenging for titles, but top 4 is doable, with a bit of luck.
Quite positive about it given we don't have to waste our time in the EL.

[Marsbar100]

All depends on what manager we get

[Arsenal Tone]

We'll see a big improvement next year - calling it now.
Our core young players will be a year older and will have gone through a full preseason in the knowledge they are first-team regulars.
Top 6 for sure. Pushing for top 4.
It will take a few years to get to challenging for titles, but top 4 is doable, with a bit of luck.
Quite positive about it given we don't have to waste our time in the EL.

Part of me thinks this too. Plus we offloaded lots of deadwood in January and this has freed up space for signings, even before any more sales

[Ach]

We'll see nothing if Arteta is in charge

[Nuggets]

All depends on what manager we get

True if the clown is still with us we will be getting the same or worse next season.

[DiamondGooner]

We'll see a big improvement next year - calling it now.

Another dodgey forecast?

................ so soon?

Are you sure.

[jayramfootball]

We'll see a big improvement next year - calling it now.

Another dodgey forecast?

................ so soon?

Are you sure.

It will be like my Auba contract position - correct.
Wait and see.

[jayramfootball]

We'll see a big improvement next year - calling it now.
Our core young players will be a year older and will have gone through a full preseason in the knowledge they are first-team regulars.
Top 6 for sure. Pushing for top 4.
It will take a few years to get to challenging for titles, but top 4 is doable, with a bit of luck.
Quite positive about it given we don't have to waste our time in the EL.

Part of me thinks this too. Plus we offloaded lots of deadwood in January and this has freed up space for signings, even before any more sales

I am positive because i can see some of the older players who have failed this club getting to the end of their careers and more importantly a REALLY good crop of young players.
I am more excited about the likes of Martinelli , Saka and ESR than I ever was with the likes of Wilshere, Ramsey etc.
Who we drop or get rid of will of course be important as with who we bring in.

[Rockape]

Telegraph:

Mikel Arteta’s greatest hope for survival at Arsenal is that the Kroenkes dare not sack him. If they do then the full fury of the fans will fall on them. In effect, Arteta has become an increasingly desperate human shield.

The Kroenkes have not escaped criticism. Their regime has been dismal. Their ownership negligent. Their part in the aborted European Super League despicable. The decline has been steady. As every day passes Arsene Wenger is looking even more the managerial genius he clearly was. But will the Kroenkes risk the spotlight fully falling on them? It is not their way of operating.

Hiring Arteta in the first place was a mistake. Not because he was not a good candidate; not because it lacked logic. But taking such a basket case of a club was no job for a rookie. Pep Guardiola, Arteta’s mentor at Manchester City, would not have accepted it at the start of his career. The 39 year-old ignored the oldest adage in management: look at who you are working for not just where you are working.

Arsenal are one of the greats of European football. No-one can blame Arteta for going for it, not least because he played for the club and also because he was close to getting the job before Unai Emery surprisingly succeeded Wenger.

Now Emery has returned to the Emirates to inflict the lowest point in Arteta’s managerial career by knocking Arsenal out of the Europa League with Villarreal. Arteta has been out-smarted by his much-ridiculed predecessor. It was not a ‘good ebening’. The only hope? Another old adage: it is darkest before the dawn.

It has not been a good season. Winning the FA Cup last August has created its own problems. Arteta seemed a generational manager – and may still be – but how it has turned. The cup win actually gave Arteta too much leverage as he was wrongly elevated to manager, from head coach, to create a new, inexperienced power axis alongside technical director Edu. Even Arsenal’s chief executive Vinai Venkatesham lacks experience.

In fact the greatest experience at Arsenal lies with ‘silent’ Stan and his son Josh who have effectively run the club for a decade but have done so as absentee owners. Josh Kroenke re-located to London, gives the impression of being ‘hands-on’ and it was he who went on a call with fans in the wake of the ESL debacle as an olive branch. But when has he ever convinced that he either has a feel for football or knows what he is doing?

Arsenal fans stage a demonstration against the club's owner Stan Kroenke outside the Emirates stadium
The Kroenkes are not popular owners at Arsenal
No other big club would countenance a season like this where Arsenal have been subsumed in mediocrity and with a squad that appears rotten at its core. There are exciting young players but are they now being tainted by this? Arsenal have bumped along in 10th place in the Premier League all season, although they are currently at the giddy heights of ninth.