LMAO wrote:Well...he ain't going to the CSL.
EliteKiller wrote:Sorry that I put Arsenal football club above the wishes of a lazy egotistical player ... thought that was all part of being a fan. Guess being politically correct is now more important than being a supporter, not surprising the atmosphere is shit, loyalty is minimal, and the c*** on AFTV now represent the state of our club ...
I don't give a f**k what happens in China, Turkey or Timbuktu when it comes to supporting my football club nothing else matters - call me an insensitive bias rose-tinted glasses Arsenal fanatic if you want - I'm very proud of that, was a time when 30,000 at Highbury would be with me, guess not anymore.
Ozil has every right to his opinion, but if soothing his ego hurts my club he can f**k off and die ... clear enough?
gamechannel wrote:How does Ozil's personal opinion hurt your fandom towards Arsenal? How does his personal opinion about a certain humanitarian or political issue hurt Arsenal's existence as a football club?
Do you seriously think that Arsenal will cease to exist if we suddenly lose Chinese fans? Are you saying your fandom is directly correlated to the size of Arsenal's bank balance? Arsenal existed before we started selling shirts in China and will continue to exist even if Chinese ceases to exist. So don't worry, your ability to cheer for Arsenal is not going anywhere regardless of what Ozil or any other player decides to say about political issues on their own, personal social media platform.
EliteKiller wrote:aniym wrote:Fully support Ozil's right to free speech, not to mention using his platform to shed light on injustices the world ignores. That said, with him being Erdogan's pal, he might not have such charitable comments on the Armenian genocide. But he's human, and nobody's political opinions are 20/20.
Hilarious that the club rushes to placate Chinese business interests faster than they do to stem the rot at the club.
Wonder when they'll start selling half-and-half Arsenal-Spurs scarves at the gift shop to cater to the tourists.
So it's hilarious that our club tries to protect our interests in the biggest TV market in the world? why not just wind up the club build houses on the land and give all the proceeds to charity? clearly you're no longer interested in running a competitive professional business ....
Having the tail wag the dog is not how you run a business - not if you want to remain competitive - it's what's been happening at our club for years and why we're going rapidly backwards.
Ozil is entitled to hold any political opinion he wants, but when that opinion could do serious financial damage to his employers then best he shuts the f**k up, or at the very least he gives the club a heads up first.
EliteKiller wrote:gamechannel wrote:How does Ozil's personal opinion hurt your fandom towards Arsenal? How does his personal opinion about a certain humanitarian or political issue hurt Arsenal's existence as a football club?
Do you seriously think that Arsenal will cease to exist if we suddenly lose Chinese fans? Are you saying your fandom is directly correlated to the size of Arsenal's bank balance? Arsenal existed before we started selling shirts in China and will continue to exist even if Chinese ceases to exist. So don't worry, your ability to cheer for Arsenal is not going anywhere regardless of what Ozil or any other player decides to say about political issues on their own, personal social media platform.
You answer your own question - if Arsenal become persona-non-grata in the fastest growing football market in the world - then Arsenal will drop like a stone in the EPL - football is all about money if you don't get that you're living on another planet.
Selling shirts? are you still in the 1980's? You silly boy it has feck all to do with selling shirts, we live in a different age where sponsorship accounts for 100's of times more revenue than selling a few feckin' shirts ... the biggest sponsors now come from Asia, you saying that Arsenal don't need them? do try and keep up.
The Houston Rockets lost over 25m after Daryl Morey made his political tweet - so this is not guesswork
If you don't think what Ozil says matters why did the club put out an instant press statement absolving us from any association with his personal opinions? Hopefully the quick response from the club will have minimised the damage. Try living in the real world of internet influence and government oversight, it's 2019 we are no longer living in the dark ages.
EliteKiller wrote:Sorry that I put Arsenal football club above the wishes of a lazy egotistical player ... thought that was all part of being a fan. Guess being politically correct is now more important than being a supporter, not surprising the atmosphere is shit, loyalty is minimal, and the c*** on AFTV now represent the state of our club ...
I don't give a f**k what happens in China, Turkey or Timbuktu when it comes to supporting my football club nothing else matters - call me an insensitive bias rose-tinted glasses Arsenal fanatic if you want - I'm very proud of that, was a time when 30,000 at Highbury would be with me, guess not anymore.
Ozil has every right to his opinion, but if soothing his ego hurts my club he can f**k off and die ... clear enough?
theHotHead wrote:EK you have gone full r***rd on this one buddy. Sorry to say that but you have. I suspect you have dug your heels in so far with your comments that you can't back out now. Shame cos, you are only making yourself sound totally ridiculous.
f**k the Chinese market, f**k Chinese money. People can't see what China are doing the world over. Investing in everyone and everything allows them to do what they want to whoever they want and because of the potential financial gain people turn a blind eye to what China are doing. Their laws regarding tech are a f***ing joke to foreign firms operating out there. Have you heard what they are doing in the Caribbean? Massive civil Infrastructure projects and shipping over hundreds/thousands of Chinese workers rather than employing locals. Have you heard what they are doing in Africa? Massive infrastructure projects that get the countries into debt traps and enable them to take the natural resources the countries have.
Phil71 wrote:The club bent over backwards at the beginning of the season to do as much as they could for him when matters in his private life meant he was unavailable to earn his enormous salary - and now he decides to deliberately introduce another matter from his private life that will without doubt cause more problems for the club.
LMAO wrote:EliteKiller wrote:Sorry that I put Arsenal football club above the wishes of a lazy egotistical player ... thought that was all part of being a fan. Guess being politically correct is now more important than being a supporter, not surprising the atmosphere is shit, loyalty is minimal, and the c*** on AFTV now represent the state of our club ...
I don't give a f**k what happens in China, Turkey or Timbuktu when it comes to supporting my football club nothing else matters - call me an insensitive bias rose-tinted glasses Arsenal fanatic if you want - I'm very proud of that, was a time when 30,000 at Highbury would be with me, guess not anymore.
Ozil has every right to his opinion, but if soothing his ego hurts my club he can f**k off and die ... clear enough?
"I support Arsenal over the Holocaust. Fvck the Jews, Slavs, Romanis, political dissidents, etc. actually being murdered because I care more about the club not losing a dime over upset Nazi fee fees than actual human lives."
-EK circa mid-1944