EliteKiller wrote:jayramfootball wrote:CL group stages - around £40m
EL finalists - around £20m
That's today.
The nonsensical arguments seem to be that, financially, we NEED to be in the CL because we MIGHT win it and make £80m or Spurs got £80m so we have to be in it. Stupid arguments that are not rooted in any kind of reality of what we need as a club.
Money is not our issue. We have loads of it. If you follow our accounts you will see that DESPITE spending a net of over £200m on players in the last 5 years, our cash balance has grown by £100m.... and yet some are arguing that an extra £20m is somehow vital to us. Hell, even an extra £80m is not vital to us. Not even close to the most important things that we need as a club.
Just give it up .... 20m doesn't matter 80m doesn't matter of course it does ....
As I said we will see what the EPL clubs earn very soon ...
The very REAL argument is that four of our EPL rivals will earn between 70m and 90m more than us by playing CL football ... that's a brutal fact
Money is very much our issue ... we were the 2nd highest earners in the EPL we are now 4th soon to be 5th or even 6th .... if you can't see that 20 years ago being almost level on income with man Utd allowed us to be consistently one of the top two clubs, and that now being 5th or 6th on income has seen us consistently finish 5th or 6th .... then you simply don't understand football finance ...
Put simply Utd have always been top dog but City have passed us, Liverpool have passed us, Chelsea have passed us, and worst next year Spuds will pass us as well ... if you think 22m from CL football will put us back in the top four ... dream on
You are still in fantasy land. You might think that " four of our EPL rivals will earn between 70m and 90m more than us by playing CL football " is a "brutal fact", but in fact, it's nonsense. Brutally so.
Man Utd will have earned about £20m more than our EL run.
Man City around £30m more than our EL run.
Spurs and Liverpool £50-£60m more than our EL run.
This year we'll still have higher revenues than Spurs.
City and Utd will have more money than us regardless of their CL performances. I guess you've given up competing with them...because.. money.
Liverpool already make more than us too. No point trying to compete with them, then.
Having more money is not the differentiator. At a certain level, which we are well over, there is enough money to bring in players that will allow us to compete. We made more money than Spurs last year - yet they finished above us in the league and got to a CL final. Shock horror, how can that be????? I'll give you a little hint. Spurs previously had signed Moussa Sosoko for £30m and we signed Xhaka for £40m... I could go on with the comparisons.
We simply don't need a last 16 performance in the CL to progress. We need wise signings to build our team. As soon as you get money out of your head you might start to understand football a little better. The fact you've gone on record saying "money is our issue", after we've made a fortune, spending £200m+ net on players in the last 5 years (more than Spurs and Liverpool), whilst sitting on nearly £250m cash in the bank , tells me you are woefully short on understanding what our real issues are.
Our revenue was not close to Manchester Utds 20 years ago. We didn't compete with them because of money. It's because we brought in great players - rather
cheaply I might add. Like Anelka...Vieira...Petit. In fact our big rise in revenues after the stadium move brought a DECLINE in performances.
You are not very good with facts, brutal ones or otherwise.