EliteKiller wrote:theHotHead wrote:I literally cannot be bothered to waste my time responding to this EK, even though I could destroy your post on so many levels. What I will say is, considering Arsenal don't get past the round of the last 16 in the CL there is no point talking about earnings for winning the thing because Arsenal won't, so being realistic the CL money we miss out on is the round 16 money - as I stated in a previous post. And as I stated that money hasn't changed much over the past 5 years, as I also showed.
So to sum up what you're saying is let's give up on the CL because we're no good, and there's no money in it ...
money hasn't changed much over the past 5 years
That is beyond incredible .... in the last five years football has seen the largest increase in income in it's history. CL total prize money last year alone went up by 54% it's more than doubled in the last five years.... just what the f**k are you smokin' ???????
Dude for f**k's sake, learn to f***ing read! I am saying that your argument of mass growth in CL revenue is bullshit as I proved with the figures for the winners in 2014 and by the money Arsenal would get for their typical round 16 elimination. That and that alone is my f***ing point! I made it crystal clear.
You got buried the last time I argued with you, I take no pleasure in making you look silly. Stop twisting things and moving goalposts. Read the full distribution report to clubs:
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2294532.htmlThats the 2014/15 report. In it, it states that the winners, Barcelona earned €61m. Juventus the runner up earned €89m. Barca earned €10.5m for winning, Juve earned €6.5m for losing the final. Now, if we fast forward to the last set of UEFA figures published, 2017/18:
https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/about-uefa/news/newsid=2578222.htmlThis report shows that the winners Real Madrid earned €88.6m and the runners up Liverpool earned €81.2m. Real earned €15.5m for winning the final, Liverpool earned €11m for losing.
If we go back exactly 5 years from the latest report to the 2012/13 season it shows:
The winners Bayern earned €55m total and €10.5m for the final. Runners up B Dortmund earned €54m total and €6.5m for the final. Don't believe me?? Well check UEFA's financial distribution document for 2012/13:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/uefaorg/Finance/01/97/52/97/1975297_DOWNLOAD.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiF2O-FtaniAhXKZt4KHbxlApgQFjANegQIAxAH&usg=AOvVaw3jVZcBLX26XKy_OzXxCx4LWhat that shows is your figures are nonsense so your arguments are equally nonsense.1) you said CL money went up by 54% from last year. WRONG!
The winner of the final this year will earn €19m, the runner up €15m. The winner is up by €3.5m on last year which is approx 22%. €3.5m is f**k all! On top of that you have no idea how much clubs will earn in total because the TV money (market pool) for each country's market is different so we won't know until UEFA publish the official report, so you either made the figures up or you lied. Either way they are bullshit figures.
2) you said CL money has more than doubled in the last 5 years. WRONG!
In 2012 the winner earned €55m total and €10.5m for the final. If you take last season's figures the winner earned €88.6m total and €15.5m for the final. What maths are you using to therefore deduce that CL money has more than doubled???
Flawed stats = flawed argument. Why you keep trying it with me is a mystery. I predict another week of you keeping a low profile after this.