Arshavins agent ''confirms'' Arsenal move.

[Inchpräctice]

The other rumour I read was Bendtner plus £5m for Upson - YES PLEASE!!!!!

You're joking I hope?!

Why?

Upson is class, and Kolo is obviously not happy here after putting in a transfer request, also I really don't rate Bendtner or see a future for him at Arsenal!

Firstly, Kolo is going nowhere, secondly Wenger never buys back old players, it's his policy, thirdly Upson aint that great. One good international game doesn't suddenly make him a top player worth £8m - £10m.
He got a bit of extra hype because of the England performances but before that no-one even noticed him and with good reason.
Fourthly Djourou is faster and arguably better and we have plenty of CB's at the moment.
Fifthly (?) Wenger disagrees with you about Bendtner and he has a pretty amazing track record.
Sixthly we can't really afford to be selling strikers at the moment when we have two of them injured.

You need more...?

[Inchpräctice]

http://thegoonerforum.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/wenger-in-for-arseshavin-photo-proves-he-is-coming/

It was only a matter of time before that happened....

[thebish]

Firstly, Kolo is going nowhere, secondly Wenger never buys back old players, it's his policy, thirdly Upson aint that great. One good international game doesn't suddenly make him a top player worth £8m - £10m.
He got a bit of extra hype because of the England performances but before that no-one even noticed him and with good reason.
Fourthly Djourou is faster and arguably better and we have plenty of CB's at the moment.
Fifthly (?) Wenger disagrees with you about Bendtner and he has a pretty amazing track record.
Sixthly we can't really afford to be selling strikers at the moment when we have two of them injured.

You need more...?

yeah... we need a seventhly - that just might swing it!

[Igmalian]

Firstly, Kolo is going nowhere, secondly Wenger never buys back old players, it's his policy, thirdly Upson aint that great. One good international game doesn't suddenly make him a top player worth £8m - £10m.

He must have been noticed to get the England call-up in the first pace, and being at West Ham he's not going to be in the public eye as much but I heard plenty of people talking about him and regarding the price he's english so his value is automatically over inflated!

Djourou is faster and arguably better and we have plenty of CB's at the moment.

I like Djourou but is he ready to be permanent CB as he's still very young, and I don't think we do have enough experienced CB's

Wenger disagrees with you about Bendtner and he has a pretty amazing track record, we can't really afford to be selling strikers at the moment when we have two of them injured..

We have plenty of options up front and Bendtner has hardly proved himself, in my opinion!

You need more...?

Not really mate, I was only giving my opinion that i thought it was a good deal! didn't want it to turn into and long debate!!

[damo1583]

I'd Pay West Ham £5m to take Bendtner off our hands........... He is Donkey!

[Inchpräctice]

Firstly, Kolo is going nowhere, secondly Wenger never buys back old players, it's his policy, thirdly Upson aint that great. One good international game doesn't suddenly make him a top player worth £8m - £10m.

He must have been noticed to get the England call-up in the first pace, and being at West Ham he's not going to be in the public eye as much but I heard plenty of people talking about him and regarding the price he's english so his value is automatically over inflated!

Djourou is faster and arguably better and we have plenty of CB's at the moment.

I like Djourou but is he ready to be permanent CB as he's still very young, and I don't think we do have enough experienced CB's

Wenger disagrees with you about Bendtner and he has a pretty amazing track record, we can't really afford to be selling strikers at the moment when we have two of them injured..

We have plenty of options up front and Bendtner has hardly proved himself, in my opinion!

You need more...?

Not really mate, I was only giving my opinion that i thought it was a good deal! didn't want it to turn into and long debate!!

Yes he was noticed to get into the England set-up but he's not first choice for England and he wouldn't be first choice for us so why bother with him?
Even Silvestre is better.

No Djourou isn't ready to be a starting CB but Upson wouldn't be either.
If Kolo left - which I seriously doubt will happen - Silvestre would be the natural choice to replace him.

Who are these plenty of options up front then?
Without Bendy there's only Ade & RVP! What happens when they're injured?
No Theo, no Eduardo yet! What options?

Why don't you want a big long debate, that's what forums are for?

[StLGooner]

Alot of players on our squad aren't first choice for their respecitive countries. Including Cesc.

And Eduardo will be back soon, and we have Vela. I think we could do without Bendnter and buy another CB myself. Not saying Upson, would definately like someone better, but I don't see who is available now, maybe in the summer though.

[Inchpräctice]

Alot of players on our squad aren't first choice for their respecitive countries. Including Cesc.

And Eduardo will be back soon, and we have Vela. I think we could do without Bendnter and buy another CB myself. Not saying Upson, would definately like someone better, but I don't see who is available now, maybe in the summer though.

Cesc is a bit of a strange situation internationally because the Spain boss doesn't feel that he defends as much as his colleagues so he's kind of first choice quality but he has to be rotated according to the opposition.

Anyway it's true that Eduardo will be back soon but we don't know when and we don't know to what extent he'll regain his original form so it's a bit of a risk to include him in our calculations at the moment.
Vela is fit but not ready for Prem action yet and certainly not ready to cover for long periods of injury.
Imagine what would happen if Bendy was sold and Ade was out for 3 months or at the ACON.
You'd have Vela and RVP up front which is quite a lightweight combo.

Bendy and Ade are the only two big tall strikers that we have so if Bendy leaves you really need another target man/big player.

As for the CB role, I don't see why we necessarily need one. We have Gallas, Toure, Silvestre, Djourou and Song if we need him plus Senderos on loan.
Ok you could argue that there's not much height there but we can always swap Tweety for someone with height. As it stands we have plenty of back up though.

[gzagee]

@ Inchy: Iggie probably doesn't want a long debate cos he knows your rep for debating and longing things out!!! (Can't say I blame him)

[StLGooner]

Our record is a reason why we need a new CB, too many goals allowed, can you not see that? Like I said before, with our injuries and uncertainty of a couple of players, we need to fill about 3 positions, either for starters or backups. Another wide player, a CDM, and at least one great CB. I know thats not realistic all at once, but I think thats what we need. And if everyone including Rosicky comes back fit and to form, then we have a really great squad me thinks.

[Inchpräctice]

Our record is a reason why we need a new CB, too many goals allowed, can you not see that? Like I said before, with our injuries and uncertainty of a couple of players, we need to fill about 3 positions, either for starters or backups. Another wide player, a CDM, and at least one great CB. I know thats not realistic all at once, but I think thats what we need. And if everyone including Rosicky comes back fit and to form, then we have a really great squad me thinks.

Yes of course I can see that but I blame it on the lack of DM not on the CBs.
When we've conceded goals recently people have pointed the finger at our CBs but often there wasn't much they could've done about the goals.
As I said a few months ago, of the 8 goals we'd conceded up to that point 6 of them were scored from outside the area i.e. in front of the back four - just where the DM is SUPPOSED to be.

I'm not saying the CBs are flawless but they're the same two that did well last year and the only thing that's changed is the lack of DM in front of them. They didn't suddenly become talentless.
Bad form is only temporary in relation to Kolo.

[ScottishLass]

Firstly, Kolo is going nowhere, secondly Wenger never buys back old players, it's his policy, thirdly Upson aint that great. One good international game doesn't suddenly make him a top player worth £8m - £10m.

He must have been noticed to get the England call-up in the first pace, and being at West Ham he's not going to be in the public eye as much but I heard plenty of people talking about him and regarding the price he's english so his value is automatically over inflated!

Djourou is faster and arguably better and we have plenty of CB's at the moment.

I like Djourou but is he ready to be permanent CB as he's still very young, and I don't think we do have enough experienced CB's

Wenger disagrees with you about Bendtner and he has a pretty amazing track record, we can't really afford to be selling strikers at the moment when we have two of them injured..

We have plenty of options up front and Bendtner has hardly proved himself, in my opinion!

You need more...?

Not really mate, I was only giving my opinion that i thought it was a good deal! didn't want it to turn into and long debate!!

Yes he was noticed to get into the England set-up but he's not first choice for England and he wouldn't be first choice for us so why bother with him?
Even Silvestre is better.

No Djourou isn't ready to be a starting CB but Upson wouldn't be either.
If Kolo left - which I seriously doubt will happen - Silvestre would be the natural choice to replace him.

Who are these plenty of options up front then?
Without Bendy there's only Ade & RVP! What happens when they're injured?
No Theo, no Eduardo yet! What options?

Why don't you want a big long debate, that's what forums are for?

Theres only one big long thing on my mind just now so I wont be posting yet, I'll be back on once I come home to leave my take on this though Inchy .

[damo1583]

Our Cb's lack quality in the air and both none of them are dominant enough.

[Inchpräctice]

Theres only one big long thing on my mind just now so I wont be posting yet, I'll be back on once I come home to leave my take on this though Inchy .

Is that the same big long thing that I'm looking at here?

[gzagee]

ManUre went the last two seasons without a 'big tall target man'.
We won in 03/04 with Kanu in backing up.
We only need one big target man, the way we play isn't really all about whipping in crosses from the wings for our strikers to put their heads on it.
Indeed, I'd say all we need are for a widemen to put in pinpoint crosses or centres for our forwards to get on the end of. Ade/Bendy aren't all that great at heading anyway. They're okay but not your Shearer's or Dogbra's.