WENGER OUT

Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Interest: waning » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:59 am

If he stays beyond next summer I'm done with Arsenal for good.

The thought is sickening and surely, SURELY, not actually going to be reality?
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Byron Gomez » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:14 am

With regards to “building a squad for the future” which vol. we on now with this squad? Are we on Vol.3 or Vol.4
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Sims » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:29 am

We should be building for 4/5 years time cause that’s hopefully when City’s league dominance comes to an end when Pep leaves
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby theHotHead » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:39 am

EliteKiller wrote:It's the Wonger 'culture' that's the problem .... top managers WILL NOT carry players like Ozil and Mkhi and certainly not two in the same side, it's no surprise they've both ended up filling their bank accounts at Arsenal ... both excellent individual players but neither great team players, especially when the going gets tough ....

Huh ??? How can you say Ozil is not a great team player ? Ozil is the epitome of a team player, he needs a team to be able to perform, he is not a Sanchez who is like a one man wrecking ball. When the team is shit Ozil is shit. When the team is good Ozil is exceptional. Maybe I misinterpreted your meaning. top managers have never needed to carry Ozil because he has performed at the highest level winning the biggest trophies and doing it producing record numbers.

Its only this fuckwit Wenger that can't get the best out of him - and yet Ozil produces record numbers in spite of this.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby theHotHead » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:42 am

Interest: waning wrote:If he stays beyond next summer I'm done with Arsenal for good.

The thought is sickening and surely, SURELY, not actually going to be reality?

Unfortunately being an Arsenal fan is in my blood, having been born and raised in Holloway its not something I can remove .. but what I have done is stepped back emotionally, so the days of being so upset after losses that I cancelled dates and shit are long gone. Now when we lose I'm like "meh". Life goes on.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Marsbar100 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:44 am

Sims wrote:We should be building for 4/5 years time cause that’s hopefully when City’s league dominance comes to an end when Pep leaves

You have to aim to win it every year, have a squad that at least looks like it can win it, of course if city go and get 90-100 points you have to hold your hands up and acknowledge they are better.

We aren't that far away from having a squad that looks serious, we don't need to plan for 5 years time.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Ach » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:02 am

Sims wrote:We should be building for 4/5 years time cause that’s hopefully when City’s league dominance comes to an end when Pep leaves

What dominance? lol
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Sims » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:08 am

Marsbar100 wrote:
Sims wrote:We should be building for 4/5 years time cause that’s hopefully when City’s league dominance comes to an end when Pep leaves

You have to aim to win it every year, have a squad that at least looks like it can win it, of course if city go and get 90-100 points you have to hold your hands up and acknowledge they are better.

We aren't that far away from having a squad that looks serious, we don't need to plan for 5 years time.


And I think City will do that now for as long as Pep stays im afraid. We should be hoovering up 20-24 y/o’s for the next few years to capitalise once he fucks off
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Andrew » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:32 am

If you stop supporting your club because a manager you don't like is in charge then you wasn't much of a fan to begin with and can f**k off .
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby BerlinGunner90 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:33 am

Sims wrote:We should be building for 4/5 years time cause that’s hopefully when City’s league dominance comes to an end when Pep leaves


Yes we should do that with a new manager but I don't think that Pep can win the league 4 years in a row. That won't happen.

But the last years were shocking. Every good opponent is lining up for the next years and they have great managers with a vision.

Arsenal board is just watching.

Even if Arsene Wenger should win EL or something it is just waste of time. He had enough time and we would be better with a manager who has a future.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby DiamondGooner » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:48 am

Ahhh so when his job is on the line all of a sudden he cares about winning?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/201 ... -decision/
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Andrew » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:57 am

EliteKiller wrote:It's the Wonger 'culture' that's the problem .... top managers WILL NOT carry players like Ozil and Mkhi and certainly not two in the same side, it's no surprise they've both ended up filling their bank accounts at Arsenal ... both excellent individual players but neither great team players, especially when the going gets tough ....

A top manager will set up his SQUAD to play a certain way, the on-field personnel may change however City, Utd, Spuds, Dippers and even Chelsea all have a basic go to strategy which EVERY player has to buy into ....

City play ultra-fast transition back to front .... with eleven players supremely comfortable on the ball, sure they cost a fortune but it's their tactics that win them games .... Utd try and play from a defensive stance (which is why Mkhi and Pogba struggle) ..... Dippers want to play over or around you to a fast front three ... Spuds will press the hell out of you looking to dominate midfield .... Chelsea will play off a target forward looking to beat you with the second ball .... all tactics repeatedly drilled into them by their managers ....

and Wonger? "well lads just go out there and do your thing" .... feck knows what our tactics are, certainly our players don't seem to ....

Hate to say it but Spuds (only the 5th best side in the EPL) gave the Italian champions a 2 goal start in their own backyard and still looked a class above them, simply by sticking to their tactics .... and all because their players don't panic, don't collapse like wet paper bags,don't give up, they just keep doing what's been drilled into them week in week out by A PROPER FECKIN MANAGER ..... just as City rolled over Basel playing the way A PROPER FECKIN MANAGER had coached them how to play for the last eighteen months ....

We need a proper 21st Century manager or we will fast become the best of the rest watching the top five getting further and further ahead .....


Mkhi has had only two games . He isn't a problem, Ozil is .

When your playmaker gets neutralized so easily , you're only good enough for west brom or a hapless Everton team .
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Ach » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:59 am

Ozil a problem?

Jesus christ

Genuinely think Andrew thinks Ozil is Iwobi.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Andrew » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:59 am

DiamondGooner wrote:Ahhh so when his job is on the line all of a sudden he cares about winning?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/201 ... -decision/


Winning the EL or not will have no impact whatsoever on Wenger's future
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Ach » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:00 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:Ahhh so when his job is on the line all of a sudden he cares about winning?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/201 ... -decision/

Most important bit of that article

N
o decisions have yet been made about Wenger’s longer-term future and he has so far accepted the changes around him.


And there it is, those changes needed his acceptance and thus his power of the club remains. Nothing is done without his say so

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