WENGER OUT

[coach8smallball]

#wengerout

blaming the players.....that's a funny one. who's the one that brought in those players?

Yes and no. Wenger bought the most of our players that's what we know.

The problem is that sometimes a player doesn't put the effort in and don't give you what you expect.

BUT!

As a manager you either get this player to peform the way you want it or you sort him out. Poorly pressing of our players isn't new to us.

there isn't any gray area here. wenger the Grinch is the main problem.

players making mistakes is going to happen, but effort is no-brainer. if you don't put in the work, you sit......simple as that.

the manager can have a level of control over that, and the Grinch fails miserably because the same twits keep getting minutes.

[Arsenal Tone]

#wengerout

blaming the players.....that's a funny one. who's the one that brought in those players?

Its more than that. Its the manager’s job to pick a formation that gets the best out of players, that is set up to beat their opponents and that wins games.

It is also the manager’s job to motivate players, so they come out ready for battle. What we see is a group of players who come out without any urgency or intent.

Both of those things could be improved on right away with a change of manager.

[theHotHead]

How on Gods green earth has Andrew got poster of the month award LMAO. Nearly as disgusting and embarrassing as Wenger getting a renewed contract.

Pretty sure it was people taking the pi55. Get a sense of humour ffs

ps well played andrew for not responding to constant abuse and not getting riled by the pi55 taking

This. Nevertheless congrats to the first spurs fan to win potm

From the comments they don't look like they are taking the piss, they look serious, like some thought had gone into it

[theHotHead]

#wengerout

blaming the players.....that's a funny one. who's the one that brought in those players?

Yes and no. Wenger bought the most of our players that's what we know.

The problem is that sometimes a player doesn't put the effort in and don't give you what you expect.

BUT!

As a manager you either get this player to peform the way you want it or you sort him out. Poorly pressing of our players isn't new to us.

I don't buy into this fashionable "high team press" fad thats going around, if it was the be-all and end-all every club across the world would adopt it. If you have decent technical ability and good movement the high press is pretty easily nullified. Add to that the team get knackered doing it.

I couldn't give a shit about a team press, but I expect the team to know how to defend and I expect the midfield to not disintegrate every single time an opposing team attacks. I also expect my defenders to not be calamitous buffoons as often as ours are and I expect my keeper to be a good shot stopper, good in the air, commanding and able to kick the ball generally in the vicinity he aims for.

[GoonerAlexandre]

How on Gods green earth has Andrew got poster of the month award LMAO. Nearly as disgusting and embarrassing as Wenger getting a renewed contract.

Pretty sure it was people taking the pi55. Get a sense of humour ffs

ps well played andrew for not responding to constant abuse and not getting riled by the pi55 taking

This. Nevertheless congrats to the first spurs fan to win potm

From the comments they don't look like they are taking the piss, they look serious, like some thought had gone into it

To rectify this, vote the first Citizen, GoonerAlexandre as POTM in Feb. Easy

[BerlinGunner90]

#wengerout

blaming the players.....that's a funny one. who's the one that brought in those players?

Yes and no. Wenger bought the most of our players that's what we know.

The problem is that sometimes a player doesn't put the effort in and don't give you what you expect.

BUT!

As a manager you either get this player to peform the way you want it or you sort him out. Poorly pressing of our players isn't new to us.

I don't buy into this fashionable "high team press" fad thats going around, if it was the be-all and end-all every club across the world would adopt it. If you have decent technical ability and good movement the high press is pretty easily nullified. Add to that the team get knackered doing it.

I couldn't give a shit about a team press, but I expect the team to know how to defend and I expect the midfield to not disintegrate every single time an opposing team attacks. I also expect my defenders to not be calamitous buffoons as often as ours are and I expect my keeper to be a good shot stopper, good in the air, commanding and able to kick the ball generally in the vicinity he aims for.

You are totally right. We wouldn't need to press high IF we would be able to play short passes and escape from danger.

But our team isn't able to play short passes anymore. Mustafi just shoots the ball in spaces were only Spurs players get the ball. Bellerin dribbled till he lost the ball. Xhaka and Elneny are not that good in an technical aspect.

We were good for 20 minutes that was the time our defenders were pretty high. Yes it was risky against Kane BUT it was way better to just let Tottenham have the ball + time + space and just sit back.

We have a poor midfield and most of them have not enough strength and no defensive mind. Maybe it would just be better to play risky and try to play attacking style. I don't know. Our midfield was just poor against Spurs. Wilshere was the only one I liked because he was able to play short passes and made good dribblings.

[diesel]

how can the problem be anything other than the manager and his coaching staff? some of the fanbase think it's the defence, some think the midfield, others think the forwards ain't up to it. the constant is the manager.

my biggest angst is in all the the years following The Arsenal I've never experienced a time when a lack of want g to rectify the situation has been so apparent.

we had worse players than this in the 60s, 70s, 80s & 90 and we had managers that didn't have the European knowledge that this one has but we've never had a lack of accountability from owner to board to managers to players to fans who have been prepared to put up with such a f***ing embarrassing shit show that we've become.

[BerlinGunner90]

how can the problem be anything other than the manager and his coaching staff? some of the fanbase think it's the defence, some think the midfield, others think the forwards ain't up to it. the constant is the manager.

my biggest angst is in all the the years following The Arsenal I've never experienced a time when a lack of want g to rectify the situation has been so apparent.

we had worse players than this in the 60s, 70s, 80s & 90 and we had managers that didn't have the European knowledge that this one has but we've never had a lack of accountability from owner to board to managers to players to fans who have been prepared to put up with such a f***ing embarrassing shit show that we've become.

Of course it can be the players too. But I'm just saying look at the names in our defense. We are not that bad. Our defense needs new instructions from a good tactical manager like Tuchel for example and they would perform way better.

But look at our midfield against Spurs. The instructions seemed like play in a 451 and stay deep while Tottenham is in position. Every Arsenal player faced a Spurs player and defended like in zone coverage.

Then watch the 1:0. Xhaka clearly leaves space open and has his man unmarked so that Özil needs to step in that space. Özil did pretty well in defending this game. That wasn't Wengers fault. We can't blame him for every individual mistake BUT he had enough time to teach Xhaka how to defend. That comes down to Wenger. If Xhaka doesn't defend well you need to sort him out. Simple as that. Just saying.

[diesel]

how can the problem be anything other than the manager and his coaching staff? some of the fanbase think it's the defence, some think the midfield, others think the forwards ain't up to it. the constant is the manager.

my biggest angst is in all the the years following The Arsenal I've never experienced a time when a lack of want g to rectify the situation has been so apparent.

we had worse players than this in the 60s, 70s, 80s & 90 and we had managers that didn't have the European knowledge that this one has but we've never had a lack of accountability from owner to board to managers to players to fans who have been prepared to put up with such a f***ing embarrassing shit show that we've become.

Of course it can be the players too. But I'm just saying look at the names in our defense. We are not that bad. Our defense needs new instructions from a good tactical manager like Tuchel for example and they would perform way better.

But look at our midfield against Spurs. The instructions seemed like play in a 451 and stay deep while Tottenham is in position. Every Arsenal player faced a Spurs player and defended like in zone coverage.

Then watch the 1:0. Xhaka clearly leaves space open and has his man unmarked so that Özil needs to step in that space. Özil did pretty well in defending this game. That wasn't Wengers fault. We can't blame him for every individual mistake BUT he had enough time to teach Xhaka how to defend. That comes down to Wenger. If Xhaka doesn't defend well you need to sort him out. Simple as that. Just saying.

think we might be agreeing violently fella. I'm absolutely not saying that players are exempt from criticism and agree with what you're saying so ultimately and perhaps sometimes unfairly the buck stops with the manager. reality is that has had enough time, spent enough money but has not got it right.

[Jack The Ripper]

Has he been sacked yet?_, whats the hold up....

[Andrew]

#wengerout

blaming the players.....that's a funny one. who's the one that brought in those players?

Both of those things could be improved on right away with a change of manager.

We will see.

That's all that's left to say about this really .

WE WILL SEE

[Andrew]

#wengerout

blaming the players.....that's a funny one. who's the one that brought in those players?

Sounds funny but Wenger isn't our scout and not the one responsible for transfers at the club.
There are ppl paid just for that job.
He signs off on it , but the main scouting job is done before.

[Sims]

wenger had complete control of transfers up until sven joined the club. every purchase of a player up to that point was who he wanted

[The Break Water]

You have got verbal diarrhea Andrew. I swear you have an excuse for everything to defend Wenger. Just face the reality that he is finished, and he was finished a long time ago.

Wenger not being able to do the zip up on his coat is not his fault,. its the linesman or 4th officials fault. Wenger playing players out of position, its not Wengers fault its the Arsenal online club shops fault. Just stop and face it that Wenger is the problem, and until he is gone we are never gonna change.

You clearly want Arsenal to fail, because you seem to watch Wenger to stay until he is 100 years old, we are never gonna win the premiership or move forward with him, he is a finished dinosaur. You want us to fail, its clear.

[Zanatos3]

Hello #WengerOut gooners (#WengerIN brigade can f**k off). Been a while since my last post due to time constraints and more importantly, Wenger just isn't worth my precious time but I'm making a rare exception today because I've somehow not occupied today.

First of all looking through my post hostory in this forum would suggest that, like the ever-growing majority, I despise Wenger. Like I've previously mentioned, the infamous 8-2 game was the final straw for me. Nothing, absolutely nothing has made me and will make me have to do anything with Arsenal FC until he's gone. Not even signing Ozil in 2013, Sanchez in 2014 and the latest big name signing just this Winter window will ever change my mind. I don't watch Arsenal games but unfortunately I have to endure their highlights everywhere I go because we're a premier league mad country down here even in offices, outdoors you just name it.

Though I don't watch them anymore, I know exactly how Arsenal plays. Xhaka misplaces passes, Bellerin runs into blind alleys, Mustafi slides into needless challenges in dangerous areas, Lacazette presses but no one joins him, Cech trying to dribble charging strikers....long story short, 11 individuals each trying their own idea rather than a collective effort.

Thing is, for the sake of my health and sanity, I've accepted our current predicament until he's gone. Man city are the lesser of 5 other evils so I'm fine with them winning everything if it's not Arsenal fc. One can only hope this is his final season with us. Here's to a wonderful new week my fellow WOB. Proud Gooner from Nigeria

It's the PLAYERS , buddy.
Let me give you an analogy . I assume you follow the NBA .
Couple of weeks ago, a large majority of Cavaliers fans were screaming on forums for Ty Lue to replaced. The team looked awful, losing big against any decent opposition. Then Dan Gilbert took matters into his own hands and traded almost half of their entire roster incl. superstars . Now all of a sudden they look thousand times better .
Most fans now are admitting Ty Lue wasn't in fact the problem, but indeed players that just didn't fit together .
Losing DD has a lot to do with our current situation. We just aren't buying the right players anymore.
This sideways passing specialists take you nowhere.

Does anyone remember 'Karate Kid' ??
This quote is from that Epic -“No such thing as bad student, only bad teacher.” - Mr.Miagi

MR.MIAGI-no-such-thing-as-bad-student-only-bad-teacher-AKA-WENGER OUT!!!.jpg

So many players leave and have improved under better or just other managers that play to their strengths & play them in their best position,
along with IMPROVING instead of Stagnating their skills.
Even Giroud looked better playing 4 Chelsea, - - He actually back passe to HUMAN BEINGS....instead of Aria Stark and specifc blades of grass
Because Conte played world class FAST mobile players around him & didn't use him as the fowardmost players but as a strong slow mountain to hold and deflect the ball to more skilled & FAST players HAZARD-PEDRO-WILLIAN- & if he plays him in a front 2 with Morata, (Like Henry & all sensible ppl suggest) he'd be more effective.

Now compare that to 30 goal LETHAL Striker Lacazette, now branded Lacaminutes-Lacagoals-Lacaclass etc
Lucas Perez 20goal striker-scored as many as Laca ..(Who is still our TOP SCORER by the way!!!!) whose time Wenger wasted superlatively
& now Auba 20 goal speedster-starving for service in the NLD.

How many more good Quality youngish managers will we allow other teams like TOTTENHAM to hold down to contracts, Steadily improving their teams, Surpassing Arsenal, How many?