WENGER OUT

Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Santi » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:05 pm

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Tony_Adams wrote:In before we win and his excusers want us to give him another chance because he changed formation for one game.


Changed against Chelsea too but the early goal ruined it and we reverted. This myth about him not changing tactics should've died the day we went to City and won 2-1.


Maybe he could do it more but we've seen a number of big games where he's changed things over the last few years, unfortunately it's had limited success vs the likes of Bayern but it's not very often that it's the formation which lets us down...either shit player performances or lack of defensive structure rather than the shape itself. Even if it doesn't work, he has definitely tried more different things in the last 3 seasons or so.

CBA with beating him with every stick known to man, he deserves enough shit without people ignoring certain things he does try and improve.

Who cares about any of those changes when they all came 3-9 months late?

No-one cares about him changing tactics when the league is already gone


Changes in CL too to give us a chance when we go to Bayern. Worked well once at least and whilst it wasn't all down to Kos...and in all likelihood we'd have lost anyway...the same tactic was applied this season.

He can change it when he knows we are the inferior team, unfortunately he doesn't think we are inferior as often as we are. He's no master tactician but I just don't think it's fair to say he never changes tactics anymore, the better criticism would be that his changes are indeed mis-timed or just not that successful anyway.

Maybe I'm giving him too much credit but don't you lot get bored of blaming him for the earth rotating?
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby theHotHead » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:16 pm

Lateral wrote:
theHotHead wrote:All Wenger can do is follow, he doesn't have an original idea in his head, he is a plank.

ridiculous statement. Whatever you think of Wenger, you must be incredibly stupid not to realize that he completely revolutionized English football during his first years at the club

Fool, if you hadn't noticed we are talking about the last 10 or so years of ground hog day! Wenger is a one trick pony, he had his trick when he joined us and everyone else adopted it and surpassed us and we are left treadibg water

And you call me stupid!! Everyone is talking about an entirely different period under Wenger's reign and you pipe up and talk about the beginning.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby theHotHead » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:18 pm

Nope I don't get tired or bored blaming Wenger because everything he is blamed for are his fault, he is in sole control of all of the things he is accused of.

One can never get bored or tired of the truth..
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Marsbar100 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:32 pm

He is def staying wouldn't make this change if he wasn't, actually like the system change, need to buy players that suit it though
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Andrew » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:02 pm

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Wenger would never ever have tried or adopted anything Mourinho did in that game. Dead manager.


Thank god.

The 10 men behind the ball tactics is how relegation threatened teams play.
I prefer the way we played in that 3-0 against Chelsea.
That's our standard!

Yeah that's it. Logic plays no part in your thinking clearly. So forget about the previous 10 games we played in the same way and got whopped each time, but the one victory is what you chose to hold on to. Muppet.


I'm just following your strange logic buddy.
You're the one chanting Mourinho's praise because of one game forgetting the countless games they got whopped playing the same way, including 0-4 at stamford bridge. And that with the most expensive team in the world.
Exposing yourself as clueless, again.

Btw if we were capable of reproducing what we did in that Chelsea game throughout the season with the same players, we'd be right up there.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Arsene Nose » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:23 pm

1991 wrote:Wenger is just making a shit imitation of Chelsea's 352, like he copied Barca's 433 & Bayerns 4231. This really isn't anything new, and it epitomizes why Arsenal will never lead the pack with Wenger in charge.

You're right. He should come up with his own 6-3-1 formation cause every other formation is taken.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Andrew » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:36 pm

Arsene Nose wrote:
1991 wrote:Wenger is just making a shit imitation of Chelsea's 352, like he copied Barca's 433 & Bayerns 4231. This really isn't anything new, and it epitomizes why Arsenal will never lead the pack with Wenger in charge.

You're right. He should come up with his own 6-3-1 formation cause every other formation is taken.


Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby TrafalgarLaw » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:10 pm

Andrew wrote:
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1991 wrote:Wenger is just making a shit imitation of Chelsea's 352, like he copied Barca's 433 & Bayerns 4231. This really isn't anything new, and it epitomizes why Arsenal will never lead the pack with Wenger in charge.

You're right. He should come up with his own 6-3-1 formation cause every other formation is taken.


Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.


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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Zedie » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:31 pm

Andrew wrote:
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1991 wrote:Wenger is just making a shit imitation of Chelsea's 352, like he copied Barca's 433 & Bayerns 4231. This really isn't anything new, and it epitomizes why Arsenal will never lead the pack with Wenger in charge.

You're right. He should come up with his own 6-3-1 formation cause every other formation is taken.


Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.


He should have been doing this as soon as we started becoming stale or when the opposition demands it.

This whole lack of change to suit the opponents of the day was only applicable when we were head and shoulders above everyone else.

He obviously rated the current squad a lot more than they deserve.

Worst part is, when we actually do it (change style or formation to suit), we come up with results.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby UFGN » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:34 pm

Zedie wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
1991 wrote:Wenger is just making a shit imitation of Chelsea's 352, like he copied Barca's 433 & Bayerns 4231. This really isn't anything new, and it epitomizes why Arsenal will never lead the pack with Wenger in charge.

You're right. He should come up with his own 6-3-1 formation cause every other formation is taken.


Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.


He should have been doing this as soon as we started becoming stale or when the opposition demands it.

This whole lack of change to suit the opponents of the day was only applicable when we were head and shoulders above everyone else.

He obviously rated the current squad a lot more than they deserve.

Worst part is, when we actually do it (change style or formation to suit), we come up with results.


Do you have any idea how shit Middlesbrough are? I mean, really?
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby coach8smallball » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:52 pm

too little, too late folks!

we struggled against a crappy team and barely beat them. and the AKBs want to argue? it's amazing.....the numpties are hanging onto the past to argue the present.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby Arsene Nose » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:56 pm

Nobody is arguing anything. We scrapped a win against a poor side but it's still 3 points after a while. Let's build from here and finish strong. The fans need to get behind the team now and complain later
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby UFGN » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:57 pm

Here's a gem from six years ago

Wenger's excuses after we drew 4-4 with Newcastle after being 4-0 up

"We want to do well in the next game. Time helps, focusing on the next game helps and that’s all we can do. We can take a lot of encouragement from Saturday's game as well.
"We have played 12 games since January 1 and we have played outstandingly well but to go down to ten men had a psychological impact and certainly a physical one as well.
"I don’t remember that [losing a four-goal lead before]. But in the second half, you must say that we were really unlucky with some decisions."

Read more at http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archiv ... av7kLmf.99
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby The Mountain that Rides » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:56 am

Is it just me or have our performances gone down the toilet since Wenger said we don't need Top 4 any more? Seems like it was only the fear of failing to achieve this that motivated the players to put any effort in.
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Re: WENGER OUT

Postby elkanofan » Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:13 am

UFGN wrote:
Zedie wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:
1991 wrote:Wenger is just making a shit imitation of Chelsea's 352, like he copied Barca's 433 & Bayerns 4231. This really isn't anything new, and it epitomizes why Arsenal will never lead the pack with Wenger in charge.

You're right. He should come up with his own 6-3-1 formation cause every other formation is taken.


Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.


He should have been doing this as soon as we started becoming stale or when the opposition demands it.

This whole lack of change to suit the opponents of the day was only applicable when we were head and shoulders above everyone else.

He obviously rated the current squad a lot more than they deserve.

Worst part is, when we actually do it (change style or formation to suit), we come up with results.


Do you have any idea how shit Middlesbrough are? I mean, really?


True.

However winning ugly in our situation was all that mattered. We all want him gone but he did just about get the job done and changed the team finally.
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