by Sims » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:23 pm
by Va-Va-Voom » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:44 pm
Sims wrote:Prefer Biggie over Tupac but neither are amazing. Suicidal Thoughts is by far his best track.
by Zenith » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:48 pm
KG3 wrote:All time:
1. Kanye
2. 50 Cent
3. Jay-Z
Currently:
1. J Cole
2. kendrick Lamar
3. Joey Bada$$
by Sims » Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:57 pm
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Sims wrote:Prefer Biggie over Tupac but neither are amazing. Suicidal Thoughts is by far his best track.
Are you taking the piss?
by Zedie » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:32 pm
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Not much love for Biggie in here, easily top 3 of all time.
He had the greatest flow of all time.
by Va-Va-Voom » Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:37 pm
Zedie wrote:Va-Va-Voom wrote:Not much love for Biggie in here, easily top 3 of all time.
He had the greatest flow of all time.
Dont know man, big pun had a legendary flow. There were bars that he rapped that only he could rap.
by StLGooner » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:50 pm
by Zenith » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:50 pm
StLGooner wrote:So is there a difference to anyone else on here between being a good MC/Lyricist, and being a good rapper, or someone who just produces catchy songs? To me there is, and that is how I rate my rappers, by their lyrical ability, not by the sound of the overall song. Because if I went by just the song and not the lyrical ability, then my list would be different.
by jules_w » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:46 pm
Sims wrote:Va-Va-Voom wrote:Sims wrote:Prefer Biggie over Tupac but neither are amazing. Suicidal Thoughts is by far his best track.
Are you taking the piss?
Not a big fan of either tbh, both were good but vastly overrated once they died. My favourite project from either is the mash-up someone made with Biggie x The xx:
by jules_w » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:51 pm
StLGooner wrote:So is there a difference to anyone else on here between being a good MC/Lyricist, and being a good rapper, or someone who just produces catchy songs? To me there is, and that is how I rate my rappers, by their lyrical ability, not by the sound of the overall song. Because if I went by just the song and not the lyrical ability, then my list would be different.
by Est83 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:51 am
by StLGooner » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:31 pm
Est83 wrote:Interesting.
As an artist you need to take the whole package in my opinion.
Actually "rating" the artist is different though. When artists get rated, people tend to pick out certain elements, and ignore all the shit they do... "Eminem's my favourite because of his multi syllable rhyming".... Yea... But.... apart from being a massive dick, the man's lost all originality, bitches over his tracks like it's some kind of therapy session, but not in a profound philosophical way where people can relate, just in a "I'm a grown man but I still want to cry about it, and I want all you mother f***ers to know my shit" kinda way. In the mainstream side of the genre he's known for being this multi-syllable king, but others have done it better... way better. The man's lyrics suffer as a result of trying to push through all this multi-syllable shit. It's great that he can put almost anything into lyrics, but half the time he's way too literal... It's tacky! As intricate as he makes it, it's still just lyrics for dumb people.
.... and he used to be so good
Nas is one of the best to ever do it, and one of the most influential in so many ways. Not just content, but lyrical style, voice, flow, delivery, originality etc........ but the man's only got one album worth having in my opinion. He's great on every album though, and this is another issue I have with separating all the elements and rating them separately. Nas is great, but it's been a whie since he's been a great artist.
Skills are skills, but great artists make great albums.... theyre all entitled to a flop from time to time though
by Zedie » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:43 pm
jules_w wrote:StLGooner wrote:So is there a difference to anyone else on here between being a good MC/Lyricist, and being a good rapper, or someone who just produces catchy songs? To me there is, and that is how I rate my rappers, by their lyrical ability, not by the sound of the overall song. Because if I went by just the song and not the lyrical ability, then my list would be different.
Sure there is. That's why to me , Kanye and Tupac shine most as a rapper,MC,lyricist and everything else combined. Nas, Talib Kweli and Q-tip are up there as well. But there are many rappers I really like but don't really feel their lyrics like Biggie and Wu-tang , or don't like their songs but do feel their lyrics like Eminem.
by Va-Va-Voom » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:51 pm
StLGooner wrote:
Spot on about Nas though. I think obviously Illmatic was the breakout album and considered his best, but I think one other was pretty good, but can't remember what it was called now, the one that had "One Mic" on it, and the diss song about Jay Z.
by StLGooner » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:52 pm
Va-Va-Voom wrote:StLGooner wrote:
Spot on about Nas though. I think obviously Illmatic was the breakout album and considered his best, but I think one other was pretty good, but can't remember what it was called now, the one that had "One Mic" on it, and the diss song about Jay Z.
Stillmatic. A classic indeed.