What are you listening to?

Re: What are you listening to?

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue May 29, 2018 8:24 pm

There is no correlation between taking drugs and making great music.

It just so happens that a lot of rock musicians (mostly from the 60s and 70s) used drugs.

But the whole "drugs make you more creative" narrative is bullshit.
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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby UFGN » Tue May 29, 2018 8:29 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:There is no correlation between taking drugs and making great music.

It just so happens that a lot of rock musicians (mostly from the 60s and 70s) used drugs.

But the whole "drugs make you more creative" narrative is bullshit.


Mozart and Noel Gallagher were clearly making music in the 1960s then

Almost every major influential musician in history has been a dopehead
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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue May 29, 2018 8:32 pm

So drugs are the source of musician's talent?
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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby UFGN » Tue May 29, 2018 8:35 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:So drugs are the source of musician's talent?


No not entirely

But it seems a hell of a coincidence that almost every major musician over multiple eras has taken a disproportionate amount of drugs
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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue May 29, 2018 8:44 pm

I don't think it's a coincidence, I just think drugs were/are part of Rock n Roll culture.

Especially in the 60s, psychadelic drugs were new, people were experimenting.

95% of rappers smoke weed; a lot of them now use Molly, lean, xanax, percocet etc.

It's just the culture.
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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby UFGN » Tue May 29, 2018 8:55 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:I don't think it's a coincidence, I just think drugs were/are part of Rock n Roll culture.

Especially in the 60s, psychadelic drugs were new, people were experimenting.

95% of rappers smoke weed; a lot of them now use Molly, lean, xanax, percocet etc.

It's just the culture.


Yes but who's to say which comes first, the drugs or the music? I think it's kind of like a performance enhancer for them, both creatively and for endurance

The Beatles took all sorts, everything you can name. But it started as a mechanism to get through huge five-hour long live gigs in Germany. If they didn't play they didn't get paid. So they needed "a little help from their friends"

Mozart used to sit up all night writing music. The opiates he took kept him awake, but did they also alter his thinking and give him an edge creatively? Probably.

Do you know what you get when a musician doesn't take drugs? Phil Collins. Cliff Richard.

Horrific.
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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue May 29, 2018 9:08 pm

UFGN wrote:Do you know what you get when a musician doesn't take drugs? Phil Collins. Cliff Richard.

Horrific.


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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby Zenith » Tue May 29, 2018 10:06 pm

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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby starmandb » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:57 pm

UFGN wrote:Oi kids

Yeah you if you're under about 26

Your music's shit and you're generation's a fuckin musical disgrace

Come at me

I get what you are saying but having seen the arctic monkeys a few times I would say they are probably the best live band I have ever seen
I also loved the primitive visceral experience that was seeing the white stripes live
I am 55
Ps Phil Collins was off his tits when genesis made the lamb lies down on Broadway
Pps I never liked genesis
Ppps having seen the lemon twigs last November I have to say they were a bit of a mess
Their is a very good band in there( I like the debut album because of its many ideas) but live. You can see they definatly need a bit of self editing.
They are supporting arctic monkeys at their 02 gigs
But despite having loads of people on the case
None of us got tickets
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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby UFGN » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:09 pm

starmandb wrote:
UFGN wrote:Oi kids

Yeah you if you're under about 26

Your music's shit and you're generation's a fuckin musical disgrace

Come at me

I get what you are saying but having seen the arctic monkeys a few times I would say they are probably the best live band I have ever seen
I also loved the primitive visceral experience that was seeing the white stripes live
I am 55
Ps Phil Collins was off his tits when genesis made the lamb lies down on Broadway
Pps I never liked genesis


Exceptions to the rule though. I love the Arctics but there's so few others. And it's not like I don't try to find stuff. Also Arctics released their first album 12 years ago

I thought Libertines were even better live by the way
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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby starmandb » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:47 pm

UFGN wrote:
starmandb wrote:
UFGN wrote:Oi kids

Yeah you if you're under about 26

Your music's shit and you're generation's a fuckin musical disgrace

Come at me

I get what you are saying but having seen the arctic monkeys a few times I would say they are probably the best live band I have ever seen
I also loved the primitive visceral experience that was seeing the white stripes live
I am 55
Ps Phil Collins was off his tits when genesis made the lamb lies down on Broadway
Pps I never liked genesis


Exceptions to the rule though. I love the Arctics but there's so few others. And it's not like I don't try to find stuff. Also Arctics released their first album 12 years ago

I thought Libertines were even better live by the way

I didn't like Arctic monkeys at first ( I thought it was a gimmick) I didn't realise what a fantastic songwriter Alex turner was.
I can't believe I was so wrong
Funny enough it was during a soccer am where they played when the sun goes down over some football clips when I suddenly got it.
I like the libertines but the one time I saw them was at the reading festival in 2003 and they were a tuneless mess( maybe an off night?)
Great line up that year with blur headlining
White stripes pulled out coz meg hurt her hand
Black rebel motorcycle club stood in and did a storming version of the hardest button to button( some members are playing in jack whites current touring band)
Beck
Doves
The streets
Junior senior( move your feet was the song of that summer)
The sleepy Jackson
The thrills also played in the radio one tent( so much for the city was such a good album but they just disappeared )
I know that's 15 years ago but there is still some good stuff about
It struggles to get a hearing but stations like 6 music and people like sean rowley still manage to unearth a few gems.
Ps
If zenith is about can you post bmrc covering hardest button to button just found it on you tube. Thanks mate
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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby UFGN » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:21 pm

That is a very good line up and I feel around the first half of the noughties there was a real good set of talented bands. But not now.

I like BRMC a lot and the Thrills first album is excellent. I liked the Streets as well

Beck I saw at 1997 V Festival. He was second on the bill behind the prodigy and he was that good that if he'd been headlining I'd have been happy with just that.

I was lucky to see the Prodgy twice that year and they were unbelievable live. The other time was at a night club in Stratford. Prodigy still play sometimes by the way.
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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby Zenith » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:37 am

starmandb wrote: If zenith is about can you post bmrc covering hardest button to button just found it on you tube. Thanks mate


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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby Pudpop » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:26 am

Oi anybody listening yo Tranquility Base Hotel and Casino? Been a big change in style by them but overall I like the album. 4 out of 5 stars and Star Treatment are bangers

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Re: What are you listening to?

Postby starmandb » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:08 pm

Pudpop wrote:Oi anybody listening yo Tranquility Base Hotel and Casino? Been a big change in style by them but overall I like the album. 4 out of 5 stars and Star Treatment are bangers

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A slow burner but it is really growing on me
Some were disappointed that it actually lacked bangers
But I think you are right
4 out of 5 is just that
Of coarse Alex turners reference points have changed and they are reflected in these songs
But it goes to show even more that he knows his way around a lyric
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