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gzagee wrote:Oh don't you just miss GES on occasions like this?

Up For Grabs Now wrote:

gzagee wrote:Oh don't you just miss GES on occasions like this?

I never miss GES.

Fabrestuta wrote:Popey you need to stop because you are making a fool of yourself. The twin towers were full of people from all around the planet, if Bush blew them up (which is just more ridiculous blame Bush for everything nonsense) don't you think someone ANYONE would have found proof? And by proof I mean someone other than rabble rousers like Michael Moore and that jackass who made Zeitgeist, wasn't he also the pratt who said the Holocaust never happened?
As for your Pentagon comment, just how is the Pentagon the best defended building in the world? is there SAM's and AAA situated all around it? the answer is NO. The Pentagon is protected against people trying to get in but not a f***ing plane hitting it, as to the hole, the bloody thing didn't hit full on it glanced it, and as to you assumption about the film footage, did you ever think there might have been classified shots that they didn't want getting out?
As for the people who say flight 93 was headed for the White House, WRONG the plane that hit the Pentagon was headed for the White House but they couldn't find it and picked a second target.

BennisBergkamp wrote:So wait, you people believe that a government that couldn't even keep a blowjob secret, that utterly failed to find the WMD's in Iraq they said were definitely there, that has messed up time and time again.....You're saying they somehow rigged two entire buildings with explosives, concocted an elaborate plot involving airplanes and terrorists, and killed thousands of their own citizens ALL WHILE KEEPING IT SECRET FROM EVERYONE, and with not a SINGLE government person involved either leaking information to the press or objecting to killing thousands of Americans...and all that just so they could invade a country for some oil and money. It's farcical.

The U.S. government does plenty of terrible things without people making up ridiculous conspiracy theories. The Iraq War, Hurricane Katrina, the economy...the list of things they've completely ballsed up goes on and on, yet you're sitting here trying to blame them for the acts of terrorists. Now, I am NEVER one to defend the U.S. government. I think Cheney and Bush deserve to be put on trial for war crimes. But to turn a blind eye to the disgusting, f***ing evil terrorists who did this and try to blame it on the government is utterly disrespectful to the people who died.

And as for that bullshit "Loose Change" video, probably made by some sad unemployed 35-year-old living in his mum's attic, spending his time reading the Huffington Post and wanking....well have a read of this...it's called SCIENCE: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... 27842.html.

Fabrestuta wrote:This isn't the movies, if a bomb goes off or there is a massive collision everything isn't blown to pieces or burnt up immediately.
In case you are unaware quite a few people actually saw with their own eyes the plane hitting the Pentagon, are you saying they are all plants?
As to why they didn't release the footage, this is going off on a tangent but its somewhat relevant. During WWII the Germans designed cruise missiles that could be launched from a light bomber, one was sent at an American troop ship in the Mediterranean and it hit broadside and killed 1500 troops, the Americans and British kept it secret because they didn't want the Germans knowing they had been successful, is it not possible the US government didn't want terrorist organizations knowing they had been very successful attacking one of the most importand and famous buildings on the planet?

Since you believe it's a set up. Give me one reason why they would personally attack the Pentagon? If they wanted war then the killing of 3000 people in the two towers was more than enough, why attack the Pentagon?

Fabrestuta wrote:You have seen "workers say bomb sniffing dogs were pulled away and never went back" well maybe because there was no bombs, or maybe ask these people if they saw anything strange after a huge event, it will be like Chinese whisper. The first person will have seen a "package" and the last will have seen black helicopters and ninjas sneaking around.
You are basing one argument on what Fred saw yet you discount what thousands of people saw with their own eyes.

canadian swan wrote:

Fabrestuta wrote:This isn't the movies, if a bomb goes off or there is a massive collision everything isn't blown to pieces or burnt up immediately.
In case you are unaware quite a few people actually saw with their own eyes the plane hitting the Pentagon, are you saying they are all plants?
As to why they didn't release the footage, this is going off on a tangent but its somewhat relevant. During WWII the Germans designed cruise missiles that could be launched from a light bomber, one was sent at an American troop ship in the Mediterranean and it hit broadside and killed 1500 troops, the Americans and British kept it secret because they didn't want the Germans knowing they had been successful, is it not possible the US government didn't want terrorist organizations knowing they had been very successful attacking one of the most importand and famous buildings on the planet?

Since you believe it's a set up. Give me one reason why they would personally attack the Pentagon? If they wanted war then the killing of 3000 people in the two towers was more than enough, why attack the Pentagon?

i understand things don't all burn up but my point was how dose 8foot massive engines burn to nothing but paper is fine... there is no way those engines would have burnt away...

as for the video it was hardly a secret that the pentagon go hit so why would they hold the video to try and keep it a secret from the "terrorist"...

as for your last part, the part of the pentagon that got hit was closed for renovation ( funny eh) so it was no big deal and it's could be the classic " how could it be me that did it when i was attacked to" it's not hard to think that they could do that just to get people thinking like you did.... crap i used to do it so i wouldn't get in trouble as a kid...

Fabrestuta wrote:

You keep offering theories for what happened but you have never once said why. Why kill thousands of innocent people? You can find many more reasons to go to war, its not that difficult to find a reason if you really want to.
You can trot all sorts of "he said, she said" but there is absolutely no reason for anyone to kill thousands of innocents. For the love of God the Nazis just burned the Reichstag and look where that ended up.
Conspiracy theories are one thing, but please.......

canadian swan wrote:

Fabrestuta wrote:You have seen "workers say bomb sniffing dogs were pulled away and never went back" well maybe because there was no bombs, or maybe ask these people if they saw anything strange after a huge event, it will be like Chinese whisper. The first person will have seen a "package" and the last will have seen black helicopters and ninjas sneaking around.
You are basing one argument on what Fred saw yet you discount what thousands of people saw with their own eyes.

the dogs was a part of the every day security they always had them there since it did get bombed before so when they get pulled that is fishy to me... this is coming from the security guys not some guy in the kitchen on the 100th floor

and your discounting the thousands that say they saw something other then a plane...

Fabrestuta wrote:

canadian swan wrote:

Fabrestuta wrote:This isn't the movies, if a bomb goes off or there is a massive collision everything isn't blown to pieces or burnt up immediately.
In case you are unaware quite a few people actually saw with their own eyes the plane hitting the Pentagon, are you saying they are all plants?
As to why they didn't release the footage, this is going off on a tangent but its somewhat relevant. During WWII the Germans designed cruise missiles that could be launched from a light bomber, one was sent at an American troop ship in the Mediterranean and it hit broadside and killed 1500 troops, the Americans and British kept it secret because they didn't want the Germans knowing they had been successful, is it not possible the US government didn't want terrorist organizations knowing they had been very successful attacking one of the most importand and famous buildings on the planet?

Since you believe it's a set up. Give me one reason why they would personally attack the Pentagon? If they wanted war then the killing of 3000 people in the two towers was more than enough, why attack the Pentagon?

i understand things don't all burn up but my point was how dose 8foot massive engines burn to nothing but paper is fine... there is no way those engines would have burnt away...

as for the video it was hardly a secret that the pentagon go hit so why would they hold the video to try and keep it a secret from the "terrorist"...

as for your last part, the part of the pentagon that got hit was closed for renovation ( funny eh) so it was no big deal and it's could be the classic " how could it be me that did it when i was attacked to" it's not hard to think that they could do that just to get people thinking like you did.... crap i used to do it so i wouldn't get in trouble as a kid...

You keep offering theories for what happened but you have never once said why. Why kill thousands of innocent people? You can find many more reasons to go to war, its not that difficult to find a reason if you really want to.
You can trot all sorts of "he said, she said" but there is absolutely no reason for anyone to kill thousands of innocents. For the love of God the Nazis just burned the Reichstag and look where that ended up.
Conspiracy theories are one thing, but please.......