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Re: Your top 10

Postby Callum » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:34 pm

Inception is incredible though; easily the best blockbuster of the last few years.
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Re: Your top 10

Postby Angelito » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:03 am

Inception is a good Hollywood Blockbuster.

People were so starved of a good Holly-style Blockbuster that when Inception came around, it made people believe it was really the best film/most intelligent film of recent times.

It's good and if you're willing to produce Blockbusters, it's the go-to movie. Apart from that, there are others movies that puts it to shame.
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Re: Your top 10

Postby Schlandi » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:17 am

Angelito wrote:Inception is a good Hollywood Blockbuster.

People were so starved of a good Holly-style Blockbuster that when Inception came around, it made people believe it was really the best film/most intelligent film of recent times.

It's good and if you're willing to produce Blockbusters, it's the go-to movie. Apart from that, there are others movies that puts it to shame.


Disagree it's a masterpiece and it's imo most likely still the best movie of the 2010-now decade.
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Re: Your top 10

Postby Angelito » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:32 am

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Angelito wrote:Inception is a good Hollywood Blockbuster.

People were so starved of a good Holly-style Blockbuster that when Inception came around, it made people believe it was really the best film/most intelligent film of recent times.

It's good and if you're willing to produce Blockbusters, it's the go-to movie. Apart from that, there are others movies that puts it to shame.


Disagree it's a masterpiece and it's imo most likely still the best movie of the 2010-now decade.


If we're talking of American movies, Grand Budapest Hotel, Gone Girl, The Master, Shutter Island, Foxcatcher, Whiplash, Gravity, the Conjuring, Black Swan, the Artist, Hugo, Life of Pi are all better.

Just opinions tho.
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Re: Your top 10

Postby Schlandi » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:58 am

Angelito wrote:
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Angelito wrote:Inception is a good Hollywood Blockbuster.

People were so starved of a good Holly-style Blockbuster that when Inception came around, it made people believe it was really the best film/most intelligent film of recent times.

It's good and if you're willing to produce Blockbusters, it's the go-to movie. Apart from that, there are others movies that puts it to shame.


Disagree it's a masterpiece and it's imo most likely still the best movie of the 2010-now decade.


If we're talking of American movies, Grand Budapest Hotel, Gone Girl, The Master, Shutter Island, Foxcatcher, Whiplash, Gravity, the Conjuring, Black Swan, the Artist, Hugo, Life of Pi are all better.

Just opinions tho.


Shutter Island is awesome too it's imo really close between these two.
Grand Budapest Hotel is also quiet nice especially the "arts style and scene details" but imo it's no real contender for Inception.

Didn't watch all of the movies you listed but Black Swan ?! meh

Anyways at the end of the day it's a matter of taste.
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Re: Your top 10

Postby Angelito » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:10 am

Loved Black Swan man. The Red Shoes meets Repulsion.

On Inception, to add, if you look at it closely, it's basically an action movie. It works on a template. Nolan's intelligent filmmaking made it a pioneering Hollywood Blockbuster, yet it's no different to Die Hard. :hiding:
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Re: Your top 10

Postby ThisIsNotAnID » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:41 am

Angelito wrote:Loved Black Swan man. The Red Shoes meets Repulsion.

On Inception, to add, if you look at it closely, it's basically an action movie. It works on a template. Nolan's intelligent filmmaking made it a pioneering Hollywood Blockbuster, yet it's no different to Die Hard. :hiding:

If there is one thing you can't say about Inception, it's reducing it to one specific genre. Yes it's an action movie, but it's also a heist movie, sci-fi, and there are even surrealistic elements there as well as noir (as in most of Nolan's movies).

Also, simply calling it a good Hollywood blockbuster isn't doing it any justice - or maybe you simply don't like it which is perfectly understandable. I doubt there'll be more than a handful of comparable blockbusters for the rest of the decade. I think the script had more to do with its success than Nolan's "sophisticated" filmmaking and it's probably still is a whole lot smarter than people give it credit for.

Then again, it's my favorite movie of all time so take my word with a grain of salt.
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Re: Your top 10

Postby Schlandi » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:42 am

Angelito wrote:Loved Black Swan man. The Red Shoes meets Repulsion.

On Inception, to add, if you look at it closely, it's basically an action movie. It works on a template. Nolan's intelligent filmmaking made it a pioneering Hollywood Blockbuster, yet it's no different to Die Hard. :hiding:

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Re: Your top 10

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:48 am

Grand Budapest Hotel. :hail:

Gets my vote for best movie of the 2010's.
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Re: Your top 10

Postby Angelito » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:58 am

ThisIsNotAnID wrote:
Angelito wrote:Loved Black Swan man. The Red Shoes meets Repulsion.

On Inception, to add, if you look at it closely, it's basically an action movie. It works on a template. Nolan's intelligent filmmaking made it a pioneering Hollywood Blockbuster, yet it's no different to Die Hard. :hiding:

If there is one thing you can't say about Inception, it's reducing it to one specific genre. Yes it's an action movie, but it's also a heist movie, sci-fi, and there are even surrealistic elements there as well as noir (as in most of Nolan's movies).

Also, simply calling it a good Hollywood blockbuster isn't doing it any justice - or maybe you simply don't like it which is perfectly understandable. I doubt there'll be more than a handful of comparable blockbusters for the rest of the decade. I think the script had more to do with its success than Nolan's "sophisticated" filmmaking and it's probably still is a whole lot smarter than people give it credit for.

Then again, it's my favorite movie of all time so take my word with a grain of salt.


As you said, Inception is a personal movie for many and I'm in no position to judge. If somebody loves it, they do. That's what movies are all about.

I agree about the noir elements + surrealistic designs. It's Nolan's savviness at display. But you know, even James Bond series have noir elements. Casino Royale is the epitome of film noir meets spy meets action meets drama. Skyfall tried to induce micro surrealism in James' character.

Those elements made for a great Blockbuster and that's what many fail to realize. It's unlike your run-of-the-mill Hollywood summer Blockbuster, which is why many consider it a masterpiece. And, I wouldn't argue. I don't think it is.

It was devoid of emotions for me. Mal and Cobb didn't exude the horrors that it was supposed to. For me. I loved Mal the most in the movie, mind you.

Nolan is becoming a master of the Hollywood template. Inception is that at its best. I don't think I'd call a Nolan movie classic, except Memento and Insomnia. Nolan's fans are also amongst the most obnoxious ones. Not pointing at you obviously. His movies are brainy. I'll admit that. For me, what his movies don't have is the emotional appeal. They are somewhat cold. Inception was that - cold and detached.

I'm not a big fan of Coens. But I'd rather watch a Fargo, rich in emotions, than a Nolan movie. Or, No Country for Old Men - such distant, yet engaging drama.

I like Inception. Think it was amazing of Nolan to build a good movie within the studio limits. I like how he avoids using Vfx as much possible. I like his thoroughness.

When I watched Burton's original Batman, I felt the emotions, the expressionistic pov. When I watched Nolan's Batman, I found emotions missing. It's strange, yet that's Nolan.

Cross-genre movies are the go-to option these days. Shutter Island is a neo-noir thriller. Despite the one-dimensional character of Teddy, it touched me. Maybe that's what I look in movies. Cobb didn't touch me.


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Angelito wrote:Loved Black Swan man. The Red Shoes meets Repulsion.

On Inception, to add, if you look at it closely, it's basically an action movie. It works on a template. Nolan's intelligent filmmaking made it a pioneering Hollywood Blockbuster, yet it's no different to Die Hard. :hiding:

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Re: Your top 10

Postby Dubs4Sam » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:31 am

ThisIsNotAnID wrote:
Angelito wrote:Loved Black Swan man. The Red Shoes meets Repulsion.

On Inception, to add, if you look at it closely, it's basically an action movie. It works on a template. Nolan's intelligent filmmaking made it a pioneering Hollywood Blockbuster, yet it's no different to Die Hard. :hiding:

If there is one thing you can't say about Inception, it's reducing it to one specific genre. Yes it's an action movie, but it's also a heist movie, sci-fi, and there are even surrealistic elements there as well as noir (as in most of Nolan's movies).

Also, simply calling it a good Hollywood blockbuster isn't doing it any justice - or maybe you simply don't like it which is perfectly understandable. I doubt there'll be more than a handful of comparable blockbusters for the rest of the decade. I think the script had more to do with its success than Nolan's "sophisticated" filmmaking and it's probably still is a whole lot smarter than people give it credit for.

Then again, it's my favorite movie of all time so take my word with a grain of salt.



Nice post and description of Inception it has to be said.

But yet still no Oscar for Poor Leonardo ha ha.
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Re: Your top 10

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:38 am

Dubs4Sam wrote:
ThisIsNotAnID wrote:
Angelito wrote:Loved Black Swan man. The Red Shoes meets Repulsion.

On Inception, to add, if you look at it closely, it's basically an action movie. It works on a template. Nolan's intelligent filmmaking made it a pioneering Hollywood Blockbuster, yet it's no different to Die Hard. :hiding:

If there is one thing you can't say about Inception, it's reducing it to one specific genre. Yes it's an action movie, but it's also a heist movie, sci-fi, and there are even surrealistic elements there as well as noir (as in most of Nolan's movies).

Also, simply calling it a good Hollywood blockbuster isn't doing it any justice - or maybe you simply don't like it which is perfectly understandable. I doubt there'll be more than a handful of comparable blockbusters for the rest of the decade. I think the script had more to do with its success than Nolan's "sophisticated" filmmaking and it's probably still is a whole lot smarter than people give it credit for.

Then again, it's my favorite movie of all time so take my word with a grain of salt.



Nice post and description of Inception it has to be said.

But yet still no Oscar for Poor Leonardo ha ha.


Convinced there is an actual conspiracy against him.

He should've won one hands down for his performance in What's Eating Gilbert Grape? The best performance by a child actor I've ever seen.

Played a child with mental development issues, very difficult role, but he got all the ticks and subtleties spot on.
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Re: Your top 10

Postby Schlandi » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:08 am

Va-Va-Voom wrote:
Dubs4Sam wrote:
ThisIsNotAnID wrote:
Angelito wrote:Loved Black Swan man. The Red Shoes meets Repulsion.

On Inception, to add, if you look at it closely, it's basically an action movie. It works on a template. Nolan's intelligent filmmaking made it a pioneering Hollywood Blockbuster, yet it's no different to Die Hard. :hiding:

If there is one thing you can't say about Inception, it's reducing it to one specific genre. Yes it's an action movie, but it's also a heist movie, sci-fi, and there are even surrealistic elements there as well as noir (as in most of Nolan's movies).

Also, simply calling it a good Hollywood blockbuster isn't doing it any justice - or maybe you simply don't like it which is perfectly understandable. I doubt there'll be more than a handful of comparable blockbusters for the rest of the decade. I think the script had more to do with its success than Nolan's "sophisticated" filmmaking and it's probably still is a whole lot smarter than people give it credit for.

Then again, it's my favorite movie of all time so take my word with a grain of salt.



Nice post and description of Inception it has to be said.

But yet still no Oscar for Poor Leonardo ha ha.


Convinced there is an actual conspiracy against him.

He should've won one hands down for his performance in What's Eating Gilbert Grape? The best performance by a child actor I've ever seen.

Played a child with mental development issues, very difficult role, but he got all the ticks and subtleties spot on.


Will get a Honorary Award when he is in his 70s like Tom Cruise
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Re: Your top 10

Postby Angelito » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:14 am

Well, considering Peter O'Toole (robbery!) and Christopher Lee never won, Leo's a far cry away. He's still 40. He'll win it before he retires.

Academy Award is political as much as its merit-based. Kubrick and Hitchcock never won Best Director. Brando won it twice (refused it for the Godfather because he's just the Don), yet still think he should have won for Streetcar over Bogart that year. Legendary as Stanley Kowalski. He was the only lead actor who didn't win it from the movie! :shocked:

Scorsese only won it for the Departed because they wanted to avoid a Hitchcock/Kubrick situation again. For Hitchcock, it's a travesty really - more so because the movie everybody thought he'd win it for Psycho, but it clashed with Wilder's classic, the Apartment. He wasn't even nominated for Vertigo. And, his Rear Window collided with the quintessential, On the Waterfront.

Kubrick should have won it for 2001: A Space Odyssey.
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Re: Your top 10

Postby Fenice » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:37 am

Going to jump in a bit late. I agree with everything in your list Angelito, except one. I absolutely cannot stand the Artist. I purposely forced myself to watch it all the way through and I thought it was plodding and more of a caricature than a love letter to old movies.

I grew up with silent/black and white movies, being lucky enough to see several restored in theatres, the latest one being The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, which was amazingly disturbing, and to me personally, The Artist was a huge let down.
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