Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:11 am

Royal Gooner wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:I don't think they've discussed the lack of diversity issue enough. Zzzzzz.


Whatever happened to the notion of someone being judged according to their character rather than their skin colour? Using that criteria, no black actor was good enough. Simple as.


Yep. But apparently it's institutional racism.

Cue mock outrage, demands for change and faux black activism by Jada and Will Smith.

Can't wait for the tokenism to begin.
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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby ThisIsNotAnID » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:26 am

Think you've both got the whole thing wrong there.
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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Callum » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:46 am

Va-Va-Voom wrote:
Royal Gooner wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:I don't think they've discussed the lack of diversity issue enough. Zzzzzz.


Whatever happened to the notion of someone being judged according to their character rather than their skin colour? Using that criteria, no black actor was good enough. Simple as.


Yep. But apparently it's institutional racism.

Cue mock outrage, demands for change and faux black activism by Jada and Will Smith.

Can't wait for the tokenism to begin.

Except the Academy has a history of being institutionally racist and has snubbed numerous black actors and directors over the years. This isn't a one-off year, it's par for the course. There's a fair few this year who deserved a nomination this year for sure - Michael B. Jordan in Creed and Idris Elba in Beasts of No Nation being two of the most glaring examples - and last year it was an absolute farce that Bradley Cooper got the nod for American Sniper ahead of David Oyelewo for Selma, who probably should have won the damn thing.

That said, I do think the issue is more with Hollywood as a whole rather than the Oscars. There's definitely a massive lack of opportunities for minorities.
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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby CukiZeGerman » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:57 am

Va-Va-Voom wrote:Yep. But apparently it's institutional racism.

Cue mock outrage, demands for change and faux black activism by Jada and Will Smith.

Can't wait for the tokenism to begin.


But is racism.
And the examples are everywhere. Just need to look at it.

Example A - who was cast as the main character in the Prince of PERSIA movie? You guess it - a white guy - no outrage.
Example B - a black kid cast as a stormtrooper in Star Wars - HUGE outrage.
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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Callum » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:50 pm

It's also worth looking at how many minority actors get roles that are gender-neutral, because that's where they don't get much of a look-in. If you look at the black actors the Academy have recognised in recent years, for example, it's for playing slaves, or Somali pirates, or portraying another black person in a biopic. It's rare in a major movie you'll see a black actor in a role where the colour of his skin is not relevant to his character's story.
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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Apollo » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:10 pm

Callum wrote:It's also worth looking at how many minority actors get roles that are gender-neutral, because that's where they don't get much of a look-in. If you look at the black actors the Academy have recognised in recent years, for example, it's for playing slaves, or Somali pirates, or portraying another black person in a biopic. It's rare in a major movie you'll see a black actor in a role where the colour of his skin is not relevant to his character's story.


If not playing a crock,dealer,civil rights protester,butler or slave good luck to you.

But that's not soo much to do with the Academy but Hollywood and the nature of the business.
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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Schlandi » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:34 pm

CukiZeGerman wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Yep. But apparently it's institutional racism.

Cue mock outrage, demands for change and faux black activism by Jada and Will Smith.

Can't wait for the tokenism to begin.


But is racism.
And the examples are everywhere. Just need to look at it.

Example A - who was cast as the main character in the Prince of PERSIA movie? You guess it - a white guy - no outrage.
Example B - a black kid cast as a stormtrooper in Star Wars - HUGE outrage.


All characters (AFAIK) in the computer game series were white so why should they change it in the movie which is based on the games ?!
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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Sims » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:39 pm

debatable

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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Santi » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:24 pm

yesssss rylance!! so glad he won.
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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Schlandi » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:30 pm

Sims wrote:debatable

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Indeed cause of that I wrote AFAIK ;) but among others

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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Sims » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:38 pm

yeah i know, i think it's based on the latest games though and the dude definitely looks to have a persian tinge

the first few games look like some sort of theatre act that an x factor waster would appear in
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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Schlandi » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:59 pm

Have to admit I never watched the movie just played the first games of the series
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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Callum » Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:12 pm

Mesüt wrote:yesssss rylance!! so glad he won.

Surprised he won but am glad he did.
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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Santi » Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:34 pm

Callum wrote:
Mesüt wrote:yesssss rylance!! so glad he won.

Surprised he won but am glad he did.



Yeah, after looking at the odds last night I am quite surprised by a few of them. Could've made some serious money on Sam Smith too.
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Re: Oscar Nominations ~ 2016

Postby Callum » Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:46 pm

Mesüt wrote:
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Mesüt wrote:yesssss rylance!! so glad he won.

Surprised he won but am glad he did.



Yeah, after looking at the odds last night I am quite surprised by a few of them. Could've made some serious money on Sam Smith too.

Rylance beating Sly was a relative shock, as was Spotlight beating The Revenant to Best Picture.
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