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Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:44 pm
by DiamondGooner
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Maxim Dadashev has died from injuries he suffered during his fight on Friday.

R.I.P.

Boxing is so much more dangerous than MMA.


There are worse ways to die.

Thankfully its extremely rare, also people have died in MMA as well ......... mostly from cutting to hard the fkin cowards.

Cutting should be banned, weight loss is fine, but not that extreme water weight BS they do, they endanger everyone by doing that because people have to copy it or lose the edge.

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:28 pm
by Va-Va-Voom
Cutting is a problem in MMA because they have fewer weight divisions that go up by at least 10 lb increments.

After 170 it goes to 185, then 205, then 265...

In boxing there a million divisions and no drastic leaps between them so cutting isn't an issue.

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:24 am
by DiamondGooner
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Cutting is a problem in MMA because they have fewer weight divisions that go up by at least 10 lb increments.

After 170 it goes to 185, then 205, then 265...

In boxing there a million divisions and no drastic leaps between them so cutting isn't an issue.


Oh it is.

James Toney once lost nearly 2 stone to make weight when he was a MW.

Even Chris Eubank Jr a MW (who doesn't cut) was moaning that George Groves was basically a LHW, he cuts from 13.04st to just under 12st.

Cruiserweight's weigh in at 200 lbs but cut down from 218+ ........ they're all at it.

I walk around at 198 lbs on the weekend and am 202 lbs right now, these Cruiserweight's are much bigger than I am.

Everyone should simply weigh in on the day of the fight, that way people will have to get down in weight properly i.e Fat and muscle or risk being in a weakened state if they choose to cheat with a hard water cut.

Why should other people have to risk their health just because some fools can't skill up to win and have to rely on size ......... not even any point doing that now because everyone is cutting so you don't even get a size advantage for doing it, its just dumb.

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:00 am
by Va-Va-Voom
Agree 100%.

They do same day weigh ins in wrestling, all combat sports should be like that.

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:32 pm
by Losmeister
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Maxim Dadashev has died from injuries he suffered during his fight on Friday.

R.I.P.

Boxing is so much more dangerous than MMA.



indeed.... RIP

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:43 am
by Jedi
There are reports Whyte failed a drug test before the Rivas fight.

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:57 am
by Va-Va-Voom
Apparently Matchroom and Whyte were aware of the failure before the fight yet it still went forward, Rivas was unaware.

He should sue the fvck out of them.

How can someone who got caught cheating beforehand be allowed to compete in a sport where lives are on the line? (as we just saw a couple days ago)

That is horrific, heads need to roll.

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:05 am
by Jedi
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Apparently Matchroom and Whyte were aware of the failure before the fight yet it still went forward, Rivas was unaware.

He should sue the fvck out of them.

How can someone who got caught cheating beforehand be allowed to compete in a sport where loves are on the line? (As we just saw a couple days ago)

That is horrific, heads need to roll.

Well it's down to the governing bodies, at the end of the day. Why did they sanction the fight if he failed a drug test?

This is giving me hope It's something recreational. If not, his mandatory position for Wilder fight is gone. Hell, his PPV career might be over.

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:41 am
by DiamondGooner
Fkin idiot especially after he tried to slag off Joshua for it when Joshua has never been done for it.

Is he facing any issues with the board though because it looks like they let it go right?

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:51 pm
by Jedi
DiamondGooner wrote:Fkin idiot especially after he tried to slag off Joshua for it when Joshua has never been done for it.

Is he facing any issues with the board though because it looks like they let it go right?

To my understanding, the only reason they sanctioned the fight is because the investigation is still ongoing and there is a presumption of innocence, but he's absolutely going to get nailed, provided it is actual roids and not a recreational drug.

He's been banned for 2 years before so worst case scenario he could even get a life ban.

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:03 pm
by DiamondGooner
Jedi wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:Fkin idiot especially after he tried to slag off Joshua for it when Joshua has never been done for it.

Is he facing any issues with the board though because it looks like they let it go right?

To my understanding, the only reason they sanctioned the fight is because the investigation is still ongoing and there is a presumption of innocence, but he's absolutely going to get nailed, provided it is actual roids and not a recreational drug.

He's been banned for 2 years before so worst case scenario he could even get a life ban.


Have you noticed all the tossers giving it to Joshua about his physique, claiming roids are the ones getting busted Miller, now Whyte, Karma is funny like that.

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:42 pm
by Va-Va-Voom
Argentinean boxer Hugo Santillan has died following a fight, just 23 years old.

Christ, awful week for the sport.

R.I.P.

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:44 pm
by StLGooner
Wow, two boxers in one week? What is going on?

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:38 pm
by DiamondGooner
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Argentinean boxer Hugo Santillan has died following a fight, just 23 years old.

Christ, awful week for the sport.

R.I.P.


Question ............

Do you think this has anything to do with cutting to make weight? I'd be interested to hear his walk around weight compared to fight week.

Maybe its not connected but this is what I'm talking about, if you box you need to walk in that ring in optimal health, not drained of fluids then re-put back in 12hrs later on fight day, the body doesn't work like that.

I know that MMA australian girl died from cutting weight last year I think.

Re: The general boxing thread

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:52 am
by Jedi
Fury fighting another nobody... Tbh I'm getting sick and tired of these shit fights from him. Couldn't he have just fought someone like Pulev?