The general boxing thread

[Va-Va-Voom]

Would've loved to see prime Haye vs Usyk at cruiserweight.

[DiamondGooner]

Prime David Haye knocks out Wilder.

No he doesn't.

Prime David Haye was a Cruiser weight and although the better technical fighter (smaller guys usually are, they're just more mobile and can move better) Wilder has a power and height advantage not to mention the weight.

Heavy Weight David Haye had lost a load of his ability due to the muscle mass he packed on, he'd get his head knocked off by Wilder.

This was CW David Haye .............



This is HW David Haye



Different animals

[DiamondGooner]

Would've loved to see prime Haye vs Usyk at cruiserweight.

Don't get me started on the Crusier Weight division.

I'd of loved to have seen Haye vs Usyk / Arsen Goulamirian / Dorticos / Gassiev

I'm a bit biased because I'm a CW but Arsen Goulamirian is great to watch, he's Gassiev's protege and the new CW monster in the Div now that Gassiev has moved up to HW.

The new fight to be made now that the division has been vacated by the two top guys (Gassiev and Usyk) is Arsen Goulamirian vs Dorticos.

CW has become a brutal division because all the Eastern European, Russian and Armenian tough guys are all in it, for some reason they seem to have a load of Cruiser weights.

[Power n Glory]

Did you watch the Ortiz v Jennings fight? Did you watch Klitschko v Jennings?

So no response then? Alright.

Klitchsko first 43 fights - same number as Wilder has fought now: He actually LOST to the fighters in red.

43  Fabio Eduardo Moli
42  Corrie Sanders
41  Jameel McCline
40  Ray Mercer
39  Francois Botha
38  Charles Shufford
37  Derrick Jefferson
36  Chris Byrd
35  Monte Barrett
34  David Bostice
33  Paea Wolfgramm
32  Lajos Eros
31  Phil Jackson
30  Axel Schulz
29  Joseph Chingangu
28  Tony LaRosa
27  Everett Martin
26  Zoran Vujicic
25  Ross Puritty
24  Donnell Wingfield
23  Eli Dixon
22  Steve Pannell
21  Carlos Monroe
20  Najee Shaheed
19  Cody Koch
18  Everett Martin
17  Marcus McIntyre
16  Derrick Lampkins
15  Ladislav Husarik
14  Jerry Halstead
13  Marcos González
12  James Pritchard
11  Biko Botowamungu
10  Gilberto Williamson
9  Salvador Maciel
8  Paul Ashley
7  Mark Wills
6  Mark Young
5  Carlos Monroe
4  Troy Weida
3  Bill Corrigan
2  Exum Speight
1  Fabian Meza

Can you point out the great fighters there please.
Stop chatting nonsense.
Not Klitschko's fault, but he fought in an era where heavyweight boxing was utterly crap.

Klitschko was never a great fighter, just a good one, and by the time he fought Joshua he was a has been.
He nearly beat Joushua because AJ has a glass jaw and turns zombie when hit....a poor mans Frank Bruno.

Why are we looking at just his first 43 fights? The 10 year unbeaten streak that cemented his legacy came after that. Is it because Wilder only had 43 fights so far? Obviously if Klitschko finished his career with only those first 43 fights his legacy would've been nonexistent.

Fair play, if Wilder can go unbeaten for the next 10 years and beat several world champions in the process i will give him his credit.

That's a serious question. Did you watch any of those fights? I'm not making a list of names and going back and forth with someone that doesn't watch boxing. How is it possible to have a serious debate if nobody has watched the fights? A quick Google search on who is who won't cut it.

[jayramfootball]

Prime David Haye knocks out Wilder.

If you really think that, it becomes very clear you don;t really follow boxing.

[Va-Va-Voom]

Wilder vs Fury officially confirmed for Feb 22nd.

[DiamondGooner]

Wilder vs Fury officially confirmed for Feb 22nd.

................ and yet a few pages ago people were telling me it was already confirmed.

For me Fury has been looking for a way out of this fight since the day it happened the first time.

Look at his comments straight after compared to Wilders, I honestly think Fury came back for one last milk of the cash cow, probably didn't expect this much competition at title level.

[jayramfootball]

Wilder vs Fury officially confirmed for Feb 22nd.

................ and yet a few pages ago people were telling me it was already confirmed.

For me Fury has been looking for a way out of this fight since the day it happened the first time.

Look at his comments straight after compared to Wilders, I honestly think Fury came back for one last milk of the cash cow, probably didn't expect this much competition at title level.

Wouldn't surprise me. Fury went down twice - once from a glancing blow and another a left hand. He must know that he's going to get knocked out if Wilder lands a full right hand on his chin... so Fury will have to run for 12 rounds. He's capable of it, though. He's been written off so many times and the guy STILL hasn't lost a fight.

[Va-Va-Voom]

Wilder vs Fury officially confirmed for Feb 22nd.

................ and yet a few pages ago people were telling me it was already confirmed.

For me Fury has been looking for a way out of this fight since the day it happened the first time.

Look at his comments straight after compared to Wilders, I honestly think Fury came back for one last milk of the cash cow, probably didn't expect this much competition at title level.

Why do you think he's looking for a way out?

He said months that they'd be fighting on this date and they are.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... d-february

[DiamondGooner]

Wilder vs Fury officially confirmed for Feb 22nd.

................ and yet a few pages ago people were telling me it was already confirmed.

For me Fury has been looking for a way out of this fight since the day it happened the first time.

Look at his comments straight after compared to Wilders, I honestly think Fury came back for one last milk of the cash cow, probably didn't expect this much competition at title level.

Why do you think he's looking for a way out?

He said months that they'd be fighting on this date and they are.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... d-february

Everything he's said since he came back is not what I would expect to hear from a man looking to dominate and take the division.

Immediately after the Wilder fight, in the ring, Wilder "I wanna do it again", Fury "I'm not committing to anything, I just want to go home to see my family".

Then since then, Fury fighting out and out bums on his record deal for ESPN, the WWE appearance, the not putting pen to paper sooner even though he knew this was the fight he'd have to do.

He came back from the brink, I don't think he's mentally in a place to be trying to be the killer of the division, he looks to me like he's got half his mind in retirement, the fight against Wilder is not the fight you want if your not 100% up for a war and he knows it.

[Va-Va-Voom]

Well he's taken the fight so clearly he's ready for war.

[DiamondGooner]

Well he's taken the fight so clearly he's ready for war.

............... no he's taken the money fight he knew he had to, so clearly he's ready to make bank before Wilder knocks him out of the division.

Just because someone takes an opportunity doesn't mean their heads in it, just look at Joshua vs Ruiz for that recent example.

[Va-Va-Voom]

Well he's taken the fight so clearly he's ready for war.

............... no he's taken the money fight he knew he had to, so clearly he's ready to make bank before Wilder knocks him out of the division.

Just because someone takes an opportunity doesn't mean their heads in it, just look at Joshua vs Ruiz for that recent example.

Strange that you're acting like Wilder knocking him out is a foregone conclusion.

Also Fury already made bank, he signed a deal worth $100 million with ESPN remember?

He isn't fighting Wilder for a money grab.

Also Joshua got outboxed by Ruiz, he didn't lose because his "head wasn't in it".

[Jedi]

Well he's taken the fight so clearly he's ready for war.

............... no he's taken the money fight he knew he had to, so clearly he's ready to make bank before Wilder knocks him out of the division.

Just because someone takes an opportunity doesn't mean their heads in it, just look at Joshua vs Ruiz for that recent example.

Fury vs Joshua at Wembley is the real money fight for him.

[BS221B]

Wilder wins with a hammer blow.
Such a short punch too.
Best heavyweight in the world.
Granite chin, most powerful puncher of all time.

Talk about overexaggerating. He has strong punch, i will give you that but its nowhere close to Big Foremans punches lol.