The general boxing thread

[DiamondGooner]

Ok but that doesn't change the fact that he pays the PBC fighters well.

As I said Bob Arum was complaining about Haymon paying his fighters too much, and that's coming from a fellow promoter.

Also remember when Broner rejected an offer from Hearn and called it a "slave deal" because he makes more with PBC even though he loses whenever he faces elite competition?

Point is PBC fighters are paid well, there's a reason why he's built such a big stable and they're all happy to be with him.

Also Floyd wouldn't have let Haymon make any money off him unless he liked him and thought he was a good businessman.

Floyd praises Haymon to the heavens.

Yes he does because when he needs your product but doesn't own it, he's a good business partner who can get sh*t done, Floyd and Al were making money "together" as partners, if Haymon owned Floyd, Floyd would of got fleeced compared to the sort of money he's used to making, Haymon can get you the fights you want, he can help you get better money from the TV deals etc, that's what Floyd needed Haymon to do, to open doors and get their max cut, Haymon made more money from working with Floyd than he does on his owned bum fighters like Broner so of course Haymon was up for it, if Haymon makes 10% of a Mayweather Promotion fight that's $5m from a $50m Mayweather fight, Broner makes $1m per fight if that and they have to split that between them, if Haymon owned Mayweather than Mayweather's % plummets like a mofo.

All I know is that Eddie Hearn has helped AJ to become the best paid boxer in the world alongside Canelo, their selling out record venues all around the world and all the other competition is giving up and walking over to their side.

Take DAZN, just a year ago the other promoters were claiming "Its a joke, they'll crumble" the fighters were skittish etc .......... a year later, Canelo, GGG, Billy Joe Saunders, Usyk, everybody has come on board.

Only Wilder and Fury hasn't and that's because their promoters have thrown the sink at them to keep their only money maker, look at the deal Warren got for Fury, why didn't he get him that before? its because DAZN and Matchroom are starving everyone else into submission.

.............. i comes down to this, if Haymon was so great then why is Wilder making $5m per fight and wasn't even making that before the Fury fight yet Joshua as a challenger just got $60m?

The numbers speak for themselves, even Hearn himself has said he can't understand why Wilder isn't bigger than he is, he said he's been poorly managed.

............... and when Haymon is making Wilder turn down $100m offers then yeah, no wonder he isn't making that money, poorly managed.

[jayramfootball]

Ok but that doesn't change the fact that he pays the PBC fighters well.

As I said Bob Arum was complaining about Haymon paying his fighters too much, and that's coming from a fellow promoter.

Also remember when Broner rejected an offer from Hearn and called it a "slave deal" because he makes more with PBC even though he loses whenever he faces elite competition?

Point is PBC fighters are paid well, there's a reason why he's built such a big stable and they're all happy to be with him.

Also Floyd wouldn't have let Haymon make any money off him unless he liked him and thought he was a good businessman.

Floyd praises Haymon to the heavens.

Yes he does because when he needs your product but doesn't own it, he's a good business partner who can get sh*t done, Floyd and Al were making money "together" as partners, if Haymon owned Floyd, Floyd would of got fleeced compared to the sort of money he's used to making, Haymon can get you the fights you want, he can help you get better money from the TV deals etc, that's what Floyd needed Haymon to do, to open doors and get their max cut, Haymon made more money from working with Floyd than he does on his owned bum fighters like Broner so of course Haymon was up for it, if Haymon makes 10% of a Mayweather Promotion fight that's $5m from a $50m Mayweather fight, Broner makes $1m per fight if that and they have to split that between them, if Haymon owned Mayweather than Mayweather's % plummets like a mofo.

All I know is that Eddie Hearn has helped AJ to become the best paid boxer in the world alongside Canelo, their selling out record venues all around the world and all the other competition is giving up and walking over to their side.

Take DAZN, just a year ago the other promoters were claiming "Its a joke, they'll crumble" the fighters were skittish etc .......... a year later, Canelo, GGG, Billy Joe Saunders, Usyk, everybody has come on board.

Only Wilder and Fury hasn't and that's because their promoters have thrown the sink at them to keep their only money maker, look at the deal Warren got for Fury, why didn't he get him that before? its because DAZN and Matchroom are starving everyone else into submission.

.............. i comes down to this, if Haymon was so great then why is Wilder making $5m per fight and wasn't even making that before the Fury fight yet Joshua as a challenger just got $60m?

The numbers speak for themselves, even Hearn himself has said he can't understand why Wilder isn't bigger than he is, he said he's been poorly managed.

............... and when Haymon is making Wilder turn down $100m offers then yeah, no wonder he isn't making that money, poorly managed.

If the reason that Wilder will not fight is because the deal being offered pays AJ more money, why doesn't AJ accept an equal purse? Or better still, a lower purse than Wilder? If and when that offer is on the table, then we can say that Wilder is ducking AJ.
Fact is Wilder fought Fury, who is better than AJ.
It's easy to make an offer that insults the pride of a rival fighter and then run around claiming 'he ducked us' when the refusal you KNEW was coming materialises.
Hearn is a scum bag. A master manipulator and fraud. He knows damn well that AJ gets knocked out against Wilder and the only deal he'll make is to use Wilder to cash in on AJ's last fight before the money making charade ends. He's quite happy to pile up the pay days as long as possible before cashing in. Wilder is simply refusing to be used.

[Phil71]

Wilder fought Fury because he thought he was an overweight, washed up fighter.

How wrong he was.

[Va-Va-Voom]

Wilder fought Fury because he thought he was an overweight, washed up fighter.

How wrong he was.

[DiamondGooner]

Ok but that doesn't change the fact that he pays the PBC fighters well.

As I said Bob Arum was complaining about Haymon paying his fighters too much, and that's coming from a fellow promoter.

Also remember when Broner rejected an offer from Hearn and called it a "slave deal" because he makes more with PBC even though he loses whenever he faces elite competition?

Point is PBC fighters are paid well, there's a reason why he's built such a big stable and they're all happy to be with him.

Also Floyd wouldn't have let Haymon make any money off him unless he liked him and thought he was a good businessman.

Floyd praises Haymon to the heavens.

Yes he does because when he needs your product but doesn't own it, he's a good business partner who can get sh*t done, Floyd and Al were making money "together" as partners, if Haymon owned Floyd, Floyd would of got fleeced compared to the sort of money he's used to making, Haymon can get you the fights you want, he can help you get better money from the TV deals etc, that's what Floyd needed Haymon to do, to open doors and get their max cut, Haymon made more money from working with Floyd than he does on his owned bum fighters like Broner so of course Haymon was up for it, if Haymon makes 10% of a Mayweather Promotion fight that's $5m from a $50m Mayweather fight, Broner makes $1m per fight if that and they have to split that between them, if Haymon owned Mayweather than Mayweather's % plummets like a mofo.

All I know is that Eddie Hearn has helped AJ to become the best paid boxer in the world alongside Canelo, their selling out record venues all around the world and all the other competition is giving up and walking over to their side.

Take DAZN, just a year ago the other promoters were claiming "Its a joke, they'll crumble" the fighters were skittish etc .......... a year later, Canelo, GGG, Billy Joe Saunders, Usyk, everybody has come on board.

Only Wilder and Fury hasn't and that's because their promoters have thrown the sink at them to keep their only money maker, look at the deal Warren got for Fury, why didn't he get him that before? its because DAZN and Matchroom are starving everyone else into submission.

.............. i comes down to this, if Haymon was so great then why is Wilder making $5m per fight and wasn't even making that before the Fury fight yet Joshua as a challenger just got $60m?

The numbers speak for themselves, even Hearn himself has said he can't understand why Wilder isn't bigger than he is, he said he's been poorly managed.

............... and when Haymon is making Wilder turn down $100m offers then yeah, no wonder he isn't making that money, poorly managed.

If the reason that Wilder will not fight is because the deal being offered pays AJ more money, why doesn't AJ accept an equal purse? Or better still, a lower purse than Wilder? If and when that offer is on the table, then we can say that Wilder is ducking AJ.
Fact is Wilder fought Fury, who is better than AJ.
It's easy to make an offer that insults the pride of a rival fighter and then run around claiming 'he ducked us' when the refusal you KNEW was coming materialises.
Hearn is a scum bag. A master manipulator and fraud. He knows damn well that AJ gets knocked out against Wilder and the only deal he'll make is to use Wilder to cash in on AJ's last fight before the money making charade ends. He's quite happy to pile up the pay days as long as possible before cashing in. Wilder is simply refusing to be used.

Because that isn't the reason.

This post is terrible, unrealistic and just out and out stupid.

I mean why doens't AJ just fight him for free? or better yet just give Wilder the belts?

"Better still a lower purse than Wilder", "Wilder is simply refusing to be used" ........... are you serious?

Forget it I'm not even going to bother, there's stupid and then there's fkin ridiculous, I just can't.

This is quite possibly the worst post in the history of GW.

[Santi]

Because he disagrees with you? The forum general himself.

Joshua would easily make up the difference in PR by pulling such a move and then winning if he’s so confident in beating him. Imagine, taking less money to fight his biggest rival and knock him out. But he won’t, because he can’t.

Also Hearn wants the rivalry to keep building then AJ will fight Wilder when he’s 40.

[Rockape]

To be fair it was a dumb post, when you come out with comments like this:

Fact is Wilder fought Fury, who is better than AJ.

AJ has four belts and Fury none. Fury got clipped by Wilder and miraculously got back up. He probably won’t be so lucky next time. If he does somehow manage that and wins and the beats AJ, you will have a point. But he’s miles away currently.

[Sims]

Fury is miles better than AJ loooool

What’s AJ proved that Fury hasn’t? Lucking his way past an OAP Klitchsko when Fury schooled him?

[Rockape]

He’s got the belts........end of!

[Santi]

By running round the ring for 12 rounds like he’s mo farah

[Va-Va-Voom]

He’s got the belts........end of!

In your opinion was Ruiz "miles better" than Fury three days ago when he still had the belts?

[DiamondGooner]

Because he disagrees with you? The forum general himself.

Joshua would easily make up the difference in PR by pulling such a move and then winning if he’s so confident in beating him. Imagine, taking less money to fight his biggest rival and knock him out. But he won’t, because he can’t.

Also Hearn wants the rivalry to keep building then AJ will fight Wilder when he’s 40.

No ............. its because he's telling the guy who brings all the money and the belts to take a pay cut, when the opportunity is 75% Wilders, a record pay day which he gets nowhere else and a crack at the guy with all the belts he tells everyone he can beat easily.

If he's confident then why doesn't he take his "measly" $100m and take the belts? its not hard at all.

............... but but no, AJ who doesn't even need Wilder should take less money than a guy who commands $5m pay days and 100k pay per views????

Fk off, this is spastic territory your entering with these suggestions.

You may not like AJ but ffs don't be a r***rd.

Wilder needs AJ, not the other way round, all Wilder had to do was take $100m ...............?

Wilder lost all credibility when he turned that down and he knew it, the look on his face when he did his first interview, embarrassing.

[DiamondGooner]

By running round the ring for 12 rounds like he’s mo farah

Yet when Muhammed Ali did it he was called a boxing genius.

Nope, no need to reply.

[jayramfootball]

Ok but that doesn't change the fact that he pays the PBC fighters well.

As I said Bob Arum was complaining about Haymon paying his fighters too much, and that's coming from a fellow promoter.

Also remember when Broner rejected an offer from Hearn and called it a "slave deal" because he makes more with PBC even though he loses whenever he faces elite competition?

Point is PBC fighters are paid well, there's a reason why he's built such a big stable and they're all happy to be with him.

Also Floyd wouldn't have let Haymon make any money off him unless he liked him and thought he was a good businessman.

Floyd praises Haymon to the heavens.

Yes he does because when he needs your product but doesn't own it, he's a good business partner who can get sh*t done, Floyd and Al were making money "together" as partners, if Haymon owned Floyd, Floyd would of got fleeced compared to the sort of money he's used to making, Haymon can get you the fights you want, he can help you get better money from the TV deals etc, that's what Floyd needed Haymon to do, to open doors and get their max cut, Haymon made more money from working with Floyd than he does on his owned bum fighters like Broner so of course Haymon was up for it, if Haymon makes 10% of a Mayweather Promotion fight that's $5m from a $50m Mayweather fight, Broner makes $1m per fight if that and they have to split that between them, if Haymon owned Mayweather than Mayweather's % plummets like a mofo.

All I know is that Eddie Hearn has helped AJ to become the best paid boxer in the world alongside Canelo, their selling out record venues all around the world and all the other competition is giving up and walking over to their side.

Take DAZN, just a year ago the other promoters were claiming "Its a joke, they'll crumble" the fighters were skittish etc .......... a year later, Canelo, GGG, Billy Joe Saunders, Usyk, everybody has come on board.

Only Wilder and Fury hasn't and that's because their promoters have thrown the sink at them to keep their only money maker, look at the deal Warren got for Fury, why didn't he get him that before? its because DAZN and Matchroom are starving everyone else into submission.

.............. i comes down to this, if Haymon was so great then why is Wilder making $5m per fight and wasn't even making that before the Fury fight yet Joshua as a challenger just got $60m?

The numbers speak for themselves, even Hearn himself has said he can't understand why Wilder isn't bigger than he is, he said he's been poorly managed.

............... and when Haymon is making Wilder turn down $100m offers then yeah, no wonder he isn't making that money, poorly managed.

If the reason that Wilder will not fight is because the deal being offered pays AJ more money, why doesn't AJ accept an equal purse? Or better still, a lower purse than Wilder? If and when that offer is on the table, then we can say that Wilder is ducking AJ.
Fact is Wilder fought Fury, who is better than AJ.
It's easy to make an offer that insults the pride of a rival fighter and then run around claiming 'he ducked us' when the refusal you KNEW was coming materialises.
Hearn is a scum bag. A master manipulator and fraud. He knows damn well that AJ gets knocked out against Wilder and the only deal he'll make is to use Wilder to cash in on AJ's last fight before the money making charade ends. He's quite happy to pile up the pay days as long as possible before cashing in. Wilder is simply refusing to be used.

Because that isn't the reason.

This post is terrible, unrealistic and just out and out stupid.

I mean why doens't AJ just fight him for free? or better yet just give Wilder the belts?

"Better still a lower purse than Wilder", "Wilder is simply refusing to be used" ........... are you serious?

Forget it I'm not even going to bother, there's stupid and then there's fkin ridiculous, I just can't.

This is quite possibly the worst post in the history of GW.

Ok, easier version for you to understand.

Joshua and Hearn are offering less money to Wilder knowing he won't accept...i.e. they don't want to fight him.
It's not complicated and not surprising because Wilder would easily destroy Joshua.
Joshua will keep on running until he's ready for a big payday to end his career.

[Santi]

By running round the ring for 12 rounds like he’s mo farah

Yet when Muhammed Ali did it he was called a boxing genius.

Nope, no need to reply.

Oh my god ahahahha imagine comparing Anthony Joshua to Muhammad Ali


Unbelievable jeff