AJ is NOT a natural.
He looks sorta robot-esque.
by Losmeister » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:17 pm
by DiamondGooner » Sun Sep 26, 2021 1:27 pm
Rockape wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:As a boxing aficionado I can't express how much I'm impressed with Usyk.
I first really paid attention to him in the Cruiserweight tournament against Gassiev, I thought he might lose that fight because Gassiev was an undefeated animal at cw, in that final i couldn't of thought more highly of Usyk, he handled Gassiev who was a killer at cw.
But tonight, he had no advantage bar his skill, he was giving up reach, power, height and weight........and still won.
There's a reason all the pros are shocked.
I take my hat off to Usyk, but when I watched his documentary against Gassiev you realised what he's about.
The man's now going down as one of the best to ever lace on gloves.
I think he needs to cement his position, before he achieves that status. So once he’s seen off AJ’s return and fought Fury and won, then you can elevate him to that level.
by Jedi » Sun Sep 26, 2021 2:29 pm
by Rockape » Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:08 pm
DiamondGooner wrote:Rockape wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:As a boxing aficionado I can't express how much I'm impressed with Usyk.
I first really paid attention to him in the Cruiserweight tournament against Gassiev, I thought he might lose that fight because Gassiev was an undefeated animal at cw, in that final i couldn't of thought more highly of Usyk, he handled Gassiev who was a killer at cw.
But tonight, he had no advantage bar his skill, he was giving up reach, power, height and weight........and still won.
There's a reason all the pros are shocked.
I take my hat off to Usyk, but when I watched his documentary against Gassiev you realised what he's about.
The man's now going down as one of the best to ever lace on gloves.
I think he needs to cement his position, before he achieves that status. So once he’s seen off AJ’s return and fought Fury and won, then you can elevate him to that level.
No because I'm discussing P4P this man is not a HW, he's already unified the CW division, he's already noted as the best CW of all time beside Holyfield ............ until yesterday where he's now surpassed Holyfield as an ex CW.
Usyk is 15.11st not even a full 16st, I'm heavier than Usyk right now, Usyk is not a HW, if your below 16st you cannot be considered a legit HW.
What Usyk is, is a CW who's not cutting weight and he's beating up the best HW's out there (Chisora, AJ, Joe Joyce) bar Wilder, Dylian and Fury.
I want to make clear .......... I am not suggesting Usyk is one of the best HW's of all time, he's not, I could make a list of HW's that would beat Usyk.
What I'm saying is P4P he's one of the best fighters of all time, its done, its in the books, its cemented.
His resume is impeccable, better than Calzage, better even than Floyd Mayweather, not as many wins but he has better belts at different weights.
That's how good his record is .......... undefeated, unified Cruiser weight champion and Heavyweight champion of the world (4x belts), if he was to get the WBC from Fury he'd go down as the best boxer of all time.
Right now he's in the top 3 P4P of all time, I'm not even sure who's ahead of him.
For him to be the best HW of all time he'd have to beat Ali, Foreman, Mike Tyson, Riddick Bowe, Lennox Lewis, Tyson Fury, Larry Holmes etc.
............ that's not happening, but as a CW he doesn't have to for his P4P status.
by DiamondGooner » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:43 pm
by jayramfootball » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:51 pm
DiamondGooner wrote:Says it all in the first 2mins.
Even Eddie know's, Bellew know's, Froch know's ............ the only people that didn't was AJ and his trainer.
by Marsbar100 » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:49 pm
by Phil71 » Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:58 am
by Jedi » Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:04 pm
DiamondGooner wrote:Says it all in the first 2mins.
Even Eddie know's, Bellew know's, Froch know's ............ the only people that didn't was AJ and his trainer.
“You can see this fight going a couple of different ways. The way I would say for AJ to beat Usyk is to get straight on him in an all-out attack, head, and body. Use your size and strength and get him out of there.
But you have to have big balls to do that, and AJ doesn’t have the stamina to do that sort of thing. Because if he does a sustained attack for two rounds, he needs four rounds to recover again.”
Phil71 wrote:Joshua should think about retiring.
He has enough money and nobody wants to see him get badly hurt.
by DiamondGooner » Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:12 pm
Phil71 wrote:Joshua should think about retiring.
He has enough money and nobody wants to see him get badly hurt.
by Va-Va-Voom » Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:54 am
by theHotHead » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:29 pm
by Phil71 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:44 pm
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Pacquiao retires.
What a life story and career, transcended the sport like very few have.
Truly a legend.
by Phil71 » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:56 am
by quickeyg » Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:18 pm