The general boxing thread

Re: The general boxing thread

Postby Phil71 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:11 pm

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Va-Va-Voom wrote:Any combination of Whyte, Ruiz and Wilder need to fight next.


Absolutely agree.

Whyte vs Wilder in particular would be spectactular.


Wilder would have him on the deck inside five rounds.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby DiamondGooner » Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:29 pm

Phil71 wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Any combination of Whyte, Ruiz and Wilder need to fight next.


Absolutely agree.

Whyte vs Wilder in particular would be spectactular.


Wilder would have him on the deck inside five rounds.


Maybe, maybe not.

When's Wilder ever fought a game opponent with power and decent skill?

Wilders only ever beat up on over the hill guys or washed up contenders who no one knows, Wilder practically has one good name on his resume and that guy was 40+ years old.

Its about time Wilder fought some proper opponents.

AJ has fought Klitschko, Parker, Takam, Povetkin, Ruiz, Whyte, Pulev.

Wilder has fought Brezeale, Washington, Stiverne, Duhapuas.

I mean ffs what is that? the only good fighters he's boxed was an over the hill Ortiz who rocked him and Fury who steam rolled him in the rematch.

Wilder has skated well wide of talented challengers.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:55 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Any combination of Whyte, Ruiz and Wilder need to fight next.


Absolutely agree.

Whyte vs Wilder in particular would be spectactular.


Wilder would have him on the deck inside five rounds.


Maybe, maybe not.

When's Wilder ever fought a game opponent with power and decent skill?

Wilders only ever beat up on over the hill guys or washed up contenders who no one knows, Wilder practically has one good name on his resume and that guy was 40+ years old.

Its about time Wilder fought some proper opponents.

AJ has fought Klitschko, Parker, Takam, Povetkin, Ruiz, Whyte, Pulev.

Wilder has fought Brezeale, Washington, Stiverne, Duhapuas.

I mean ffs what is that? the only good fighters he's boxed was an over the hill Ortiz who rocked him and Fury who steam rolled him in the rematch.

Wilder has skated well wide of talented challengers.


I think Fury showed that Wilder can not fight on the back foot. He can be steam rollered. Whether Whyte could do it AND stay away from the desperate attempts of Wilder to land one big punch is an open question. Whyte is not Fury when it comes to boxing smarts.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby Phil71 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:26 am

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DiamondGooner wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Any combination of Whyte, Ruiz and Wilder need to fight next.


Absolutely agree.

Whyte vs Wilder in particular would be spectactular.


Wilder would have him on the deck inside five rounds.


Maybe, maybe not.

When's Wilder ever fought a game opponent with power and decent skill?

Wilders only ever beat up on over the hill guys or washed up contenders who no one knows, Wilder practically has one good name on his resume and that guy was 40+ years old.

Its about time Wilder fought some proper opponents.

AJ has fought Klitschko, Parker, Takam, Povetkin, Ruiz, Whyte, Pulev.

Wilder has fought Brezeale, Washington, Stiverne, Duhapuas.

I mean ffs what is that? the only good fighters he's boxed was an over the hill Ortiz who rocked him and Fury who steam rolled him in the rematch.

Wilder has skated well wide of talented challengers.


I think Fury showed that Wilder can not fight on the back foot. He can be steam rollered. Whether Whyte could do it AND stay away from the desperate attempts of Wilder to land one big punch is an open question. Whyte is not Fury when it comes to boxing smarts.


Whyte gets caught. He doesn't have the skill to avoid big punches over a number of rounds.

Even when he fought Derek Chisora he was getting caught left right and centre, and Chisora is as slow as they come.

Wilder would catch him with a bomb and put him to sleep.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:58 am

We're getting Tyson vs Holyfield 3, Miguel Cotto vs Juan Manuel Marquez and Barrera vs Morales 4 in the upcoming months.

These exhibition matches between retired legends will be here to stay.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:04 pm

Phil71 wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Any combination of Whyte, Ruiz and Wilder need to fight next.


Absolutely agree.

Whyte vs Wilder in particular would be spectactular.


Wilder would have him on the deck inside five rounds.


Maybe, maybe not.

When's Wilder ever fought a game opponent with power and decent skill?

Wilders only ever beat up on over the hill guys or washed up contenders who no one knows, Wilder practically has one good name on his resume and that guy was 40+ years old.

Its about time Wilder fought some proper opponents.

AJ has fought Klitschko, Parker, Takam, Povetkin, Ruiz, Whyte, Pulev.

Wilder has fought Brezeale, Washington, Stiverne, Duhapuas.

I mean ffs what is that? the only good fighters he's boxed was an over the hill Ortiz who rocked him and Fury who steam rolled him in the rematch.

Wilder has skated well wide of talented challengers.


I think Fury showed that Wilder can not fight on the back foot. He can be steam rollered. Whether Whyte could do it AND stay away from the desperate attempts of Wilder to land one big punch is an open question. Whyte is not Fury when it comes to boxing smarts.


Whyte gets caught. He doesn't have the skill to avoid big punches over a number of rounds.

Even when he fought Derek Chisora he was getting caught left right and centre, and Chisora is as slow as they come.

Wilder would catch him with a bomb and put him to sleep.


Wilder may be done anyhow... he made a big thing about his standing of being the best and it must have taken a lot away from his confidence to be not just beaten by Fury , but beaten up, outboxed, overpowered, destroyed.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby Phil71 » Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:12 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Any combination of Whyte, Ruiz and Wilder need to fight next.


Absolutely agree.

Whyte vs Wilder in particular would be spectactular.


Wilder would have him on the deck inside five rounds.


Maybe, maybe not.

When's Wilder ever fought a game opponent with power and decent skill?

Wilders only ever beat up on over the hill guys or washed up contenders who no one knows, Wilder practically has one good name on his resume and that guy was 40+ years old.

Its about time Wilder fought some proper opponents.

AJ has fought Klitschko, Parker, Takam, Povetkin, Ruiz, Whyte, Pulev.

Wilder has fought Brezeale, Washington, Stiverne, Duhapuas.

I mean ffs what is that? the only good fighters he's boxed was an over the hill Ortiz who rocked him and Fury who steam rolled him in the rematch.

Wilder has skated well wide of talented challengers.


I think Fury showed that Wilder can not fight on the back foot. He can be steam rollered. Whether Whyte could do it AND stay away from the desperate attempts of Wilder to land one big punch is an open question. Whyte is not Fury when it comes to boxing smarts.


Whyte gets caught. He doesn't have the skill to avoid big punches over a number of rounds.

Even when he fought Derek Chisora he was getting caught left right and centre, and Chisora is as slow as they come.

Wilder would catch him with a bomb and put him to sleep.


Wilder may be done anyhow... he made a big thing about his standing of being the best and it must have taken a lot away from his confidence to be not just beaten by Fury , but beaten up, outboxed, overpowered, destroyed.


He'd be a lot more confident going into a fight with Whyte.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:54 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:We're getting Tyson vs Holyfield 3, Miguel Cotto vs Juan Manuel Marquez and Barrera vs Morales 4 in the upcoming months.

These exhibition matches between retired legends will be here to stay.


Not if they keep performing the way Roy Jones did against Tyson.

I've never seen Roy look so much like he didn't want to fight in my life, the interview, before and during the fight, Roy just looked like he didn't want to be involved.

Plus Tyson was deliberately hunting the body, being too merciful for my liking.

Either be competitive or don't bother, they're fighting people their own age, so there is no advantage.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby Paddy » Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:35 pm

connor benn destroys vargas

great performance
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby Phil71 » Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:16 am

DiamondGooner wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:We're getting Tyson vs Holyfield 3, Miguel Cotto vs Juan Manuel Marquez and Barrera vs Morales 4 in the upcoming months.

These exhibition matches between retired legends will be here to stay.


Not if they keep performing the way Roy Jones did against Tyson.

I've never seen Roy look so much like he didn't want to fight in my life, the interview, before and during the fight, Roy just looked like he didn't want to be involved.

Plus Tyson was deliberately hunting the body, being too merciful for my liking.

Either be competitive or don't bother, they're fighting people their own age, so there is no advantage.


They're just doing to it make some money. Nobody wants to get hurt.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:00 pm

Paddy wrote:connor benn destroys vargas

great performance


That was some serious speed and accuracy with power punches from Benn.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby DiamondGooner » Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:26 am

Phil71 wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:We're getting Tyson vs Holyfield 3, Miguel Cotto vs Juan Manuel Marquez and Barrera vs Morales 4 in the upcoming months.

These exhibition matches between retired legends will be here to stay.


Not if they keep performing the way Roy Jones did against Tyson.

I've never seen Roy look so much like he didn't want to fight in my life, the interview, before and during the fight, Roy just looked like he didn't want to be involved.

Plus Tyson was deliberately hunting the body, being too merciful for my liking.

Either be competitive or don't bother, they're fighting people their own age, so there is no advantage.


They're just doing to it make some money. Nobody wants to get hurt.


Then you don't box, simple as that.

Boxing is essentially a fight, its not Tennis ffs.

Its a disgrace to the sport I know and love to try and make an exhibition a professional bout.

Unless you clearly state its an exhibition then that's different.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby DiamondGooner » Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:28 am

jayramfootball wrote:
Paddy wrote:connor benn destroys vargas

great performance


That was some serious speed and accuracy with power punches from Benn.


Yeah his combinations and accuracy was very impressive.

Everything was going through Vargas's head, even the jabs, done his dad proud with that one.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby Phil71 » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:50 am

DiamondGooner wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:We're getting Tyson vs Holyfield 3, Miguel Cotto vs Juan Manuel Marquez and Barrera vs Morales 4 in the upcoming months.

These exhibition matches between retired legends will be here to stay.


Not if they keep performing the way Roy Jones did against Tyson.

I've never seen Roy look so much like he didn't want to fight in my life, the interview, before and during the fight, Roy just looked like he didn't want to be involved.

Plus Tyson was deliberately hunting the body, being too merciful for my liking.

Either be competitive or don't bother, they're fighting people their own age, so there is no advantage.


They're just doing to it make some money. Nobody wants to get hurt.


Then you don't box, simple as that.

Boxing is essentially a fight, its not Tennis ffs.

Its a disgrace to the sport I know and love to try and make an exhibition a professional bout.

Unless you clearly state its an exhibition then that's different.


Everyone should know it's just a show. Why on earth would two 50+ guys get in the ring and knock hell out of each other?

If they need a few quid for this and that I don't have a problem with it. And if people are too stupid to realise it's an exhibition that's their problem.

I took no interest in it from the off. Just two older guys making a few quid.
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Re: The general boxing thread

Postby Ach » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:39 am

Saudi Arabia want the big fight

Can hold it August at the earliest

Wembley would be ideal but Saudi next best choice
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