Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang ~ Auba

[Marsbar100]

Won the fa cup because of auba, won no trophy once he left

[Nuggets]

Won the fa cup because of auba, won no trophy once he left

True.

[Angelito]

Meh.

Just seems like both of them faltered: Arteta with his inexperience, and Auba—by being dumb enough not to communicate properly with his manager.

The club, however, absolutely messed up. We ended up sacking Auba, essentially paying him to leave, and six months later, Barca end up getting £10m for him. Proper comedy.

[Jedi]

Arsenal in 21/22 with Auba - 21 points from 15 games. 7th on the table when he was dropped.

Arsenal in 21/22 post Auba - 46 points from 23 games. 4th on the table.

The only mistake Mikel made is not getting rid of Auba earlier. Cost us top 4 that season.

That's the only thing that matters to me. As for Auba's side of things, I frankly couldn't give a shit about it. He can go on Oprah Winfrey and tell his sob story.

[Ach]

Arsenal in 21/22 with Auba - 21 points from 15 games. 7th on the table when he was dropped.

Arsenal in 21/22 post Auba - 46 points from 23 games. 4th on the table.

The only mistake Mikel made is not getting rid of Auba earlier. Cost us top 4 that season.

That's the only thing that matters to me. As for Auba's side of things, I frankly couldn't give a shit about it. He can go on Oprah Winfrey and tell his sob story.

I can play this game

With auba, win trophies

Without auba, joke banter club

Your turn

If you're going to blame auba for us being shit for half a season then surely he gets the credit for winning us our last and Arteta's only trophy.

And he's never been replaced and we have won f all since

As for his side of the story, I guess the truth doesn't matter to the Arteta can do no wrong brigade

[theHotHead]

https://metro.co.uk/2024/05/30/former-arsenal-hero-reveals-reason-mikel-arteta-booted-20936669/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1AIyKZZgiQTG6bh0r7h_iJSw_4WokHsp5Cn4y0MrEVJpUgbc13YJXSSLo_aem_ASVkfeLko2UtC7WD_w1B-mVp5a4zirNgM51a3p6B7_TB1LBDkdfDhN5TWGEJ9TwgO00YBNeJwLRfXXPdDWOd02t5

Has he ever spoken about his departure before? Good to hear his side. And as expected, Arteta is a c***

Its good that he has come out and told the story, we kinda knew half of it but now we can fill in the gaps. It changes nothing for me., I knew Arteta was wrong before this and this just cements it.

Shit poor decision from Arteta, he put his pride before the club. Dick move.

[theHotHead]

Meh.

Just seems like both of them faltered: Arteta with his inexperience, and Auba—by being dumb enough not to communicate properly with his manager.

The club, however, absolutely messed up. We ended up sacking Auba, essentially paying him to leave, and six months later, Barca end up getting £10m for him. Proper comedy.

Yeah but if your mum has a stroke you can be excused for being a bit wooly in the brain, Arteta has no excuse !

[theHotHead]

Arsenal in 21/22 with Auba - 21 points from 15 games. 7th on the table when he was dropped.

Arsenal in 21/22 post Auba - 46 points from 23 games. 4th on the table.

The only mistake Mikel made is not getting rid of Auba earlier. Cost us top 4 that season.

That's the only thing that matters to me. As for Auba's side of things, I frankly couldn't give a shit about it. He can go on Oprah Winfrey and tell his sob story.

Yeah, right, this is classic burying head in the sand.

Auba is STILL a better CF than what we have currently at the club, he is still a better goalscorer than anyone we have at the club.

As Ancelotti said, you use a system that best suits the players you have. Arteta is one dimensional, once that system doesn't work he is screwed. A top manager would get the best our of Auba.

[Jedi]

Yeah, right, this is classic burying head in the sand.

Auba is STILL a better CF than what we have currently at the club, he is still a better goalscorer than anyone we have at the club.

As Ancelotti said, you use a system that best suits the players you have. Arteta is one dimensional, once that system doesn't work he is screwed. A top manager would get the best our of Auba.

I'd pick our 3rd choice striker aka Nketiah over Auba at this point in their careers. Gabriel Jesus and Havertz are not even in the same conversation.

As for Arteta being one-dimensional... Did you not watch us play 3 at the back with wingbacks under Arteta? Did you not watch us win the FA Cup by beating Liverpool and City by setting up a low block and then killing them on the counter—which was a tailor-made setup for Auba at the time? Arteta has shown incredible pragmatism during his time here, especially early when he didn't have the players he wanted.

You're just hijacking Ancelotti's quote to paint your own narrative and make the most lowbrow, vacuous, deeply pandering comment possible.

You think Arteta is one dimensional?

Here's what Mourinho thinks:

I'm sorry chief, but I'm going to side with Mourinho on this one, I think he knows a bit more about football than you do.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

Yeah, right, this is classic burying head in the sand.

Auba is STILL a better CF than what we have currently at the club, he is still a better goalscorer than anyone we have at the club.

As Ancelotti said, you use a system that best suits the players you have. Arteta is one dimensional, once that system doesn't work he is screwed. A top manager would get the best our of Auba.

I'd pick our 3rd choice striker aka Nketiah over Auba at this point in their careers. Gabriel Jesus and Havertz are not even in the same conversation.

As for Arteta being one-dimensional... Did you not watch us play 3 at the back with wingbacks under Arteta? Did you not watch us win the FA Cup by beating Liverpool and City by setting up a low block and then killing them on the counter—which was a tailor-made setup for Auba at the time? Arteta has shown incredible pragmatism during his time here, especially early when he didn't have the players he wanted.

You're just hijacking Ancelotti's quote to paint your own narrative and make the most lowbrow, vacuous, deeply pandering comment possible.

You think Arteta is one dimensional?

Here's what Mourinho thinks:

I'm sorry chief, but I'm going to side with Mourinho on this one, I think he knows a bit more about football than you do.

As Wrighty said earlier in the season, "we need a killer" up top. Pragmatist Arteta tore through the entire budget in the summer and didn't buy in January as was desperately needed.

Eddie, who you rate above Auba, got a £100k pw contract, but Arteta doesn't rate him. The highest paid player in the team got a battlefield promotion to CF because he was so useless in the position he was hired to fill. Still below Giroud numbers, so here we are looking for another striker.

What other managers think is besides the point, these matters are settled on the pitch. And 14/14 cup exits since the FA Cup says it all.

[Jedi]

I didn't say I rate Nketiah. I said I rate him slightly above current Auba. Both are shit though.

We didn't target a classical centre forward because it simply wasn't a priority this summer. We needed Declan Rice and the title run-in proved we needed Havertz—15 goal contributions in the last 14 Premier League games. Literally carried us.

That's more than Haaland's 11 goal contribtuions in the same title run in, 4 of which came in one game. In other words, Havertz scored in 8 and assisted in 6 of our last 14 games, while Haaland scored in 7 and assisted in 0 out of City's last 14 games.

Our only other transfer was Timber, and he was unfortunately injured, but he was crucial considering we had to switch between a mediocre centre back and a subpar Zinny at left back.

In conclusion, Rice and Timber were a must so that just leaves the 60 odd million Arteta spent on Havertz.

Havertz had 20 G/A in the Premier League this season. Which striker in the world that can be bought for 60 million or less guaranteed a better return in the Premier League?

Consider that the summer before that, Liverpool spent £85 mil on striker who was coming off of a 34 goals in all competitions season. He finished his first season at Liverpool with 9 goals and 3 assists.

[theHotHead]

I didn't say I rate Nketiah. I said I rate him slightly above current Auba. Both are shit though.

We didn't target a classical centre forward because it simply wasn't a priority this summer. We needed Declan Rice and the title run-in proved we needed Havertz—15 goal contributions in the last 14 Premier League games. Literally carried us.

That's more than Haaland's 11 goal contribtuions in the same title run in, 4 of which came in one game. In other words, Havertz scored in 8 and assisted in 6 of our last 14 games, while Haaland scored in 7 and assisted in 0 out of City's last 14 games.

Our only other transfer was Timber, and he was unfortunately injured, but he was crucial considering we had to switch between a mediocre centre back and a subpar Zinny at left back.

In conclusion, Rice and Timber were a must so that just leaves the 60 odd million Arteta spent on Havertz.

Havertz had 20 G/A in the Premier League this season. Which striker in the world that can be bought for 60 million or less guaranteed a better return in the Premier League?

Consider that the summer before that, Liverpool spent £85 mil on striker who was coming off of a 34 goals in all competitions season. He finished his first season at Liverpool with 9 goals and 3 assists.

Your analysis is correct.

But I have to point out - if you say you would prefer Nketiah over Auba at this point in their careers that means you rate Nketiah higher than you do Auba. Tell me in what way Nketiah is better than Auba at this time.

[swipe right]

Auba wouldve won us a cup or two by now. This eleven with Auba's goals would be formidable.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

Auba wouldve won us a cup or two by now. This eleven with Auba's goals would be formidable.

I don't think so. He was good enough to lead the line up to 2022 at the latest, and we were nowhere close to winning another trophy a that time. He was 32 at the time then, already on the high side.

The Arteta system doesn't work with a left-sided striker like Auba. We saw that when Auba had to play the Martinelli role, way out wide, and focus on passing rather than finding room to shoot. Martinelli's goals have dried up as well, but that's to be expected considering how that role is structured.