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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby VCC » Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:25 pm

Always said he was a lying French prick.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Arsenal Tone » Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:23 pm

Angelito wrote:He talks about building the training facility and the stadium brick-by-brick


Wow, an accountant and a brickie! His skills were endless :rolleyes:
Raya/Ramsdale
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???/Havertz
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Ach » Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:21 pm

Lol, the new stadium would've been built regardless of who the manager was

Old fool needs to accept he's finished and stick to sailing on his yachts which he bought instead of quality players to take us to the next level
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Phil71 » Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:40 am

What damaged the club was his being given the permission to wear too many hats, and owners who are only interested in money and being prepared to settle for second best in footballing terms as long as their financial targets are met.

Wenger's remit should have been football management alone, and he should have had to answer to someone above him for his performance. Instead he was given this disastrous hybrid role where he had responsibilities for football AND finances and basically answered to nobody. As a result the footballing side suffered and gradually went downhill. And the owners were quite happy to let him get on with it as long as he kept the club in the CL.

To be fair I will add that the money available at Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd during most of that time gave their managers a significant advantage. But what those managers also did was knock on the owner's door and ask for the money. Wenger instead would open the balance sheet and tell himself that he couldn't have any, and that in the best interests of the club he should continue with Denilson and Cygan .
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:35 pm

Wenger is currently busy setting up proposals for the biennial World Cup:

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... two-years/

Think his management days are permanently behind him.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Ach » Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:41 pm

Dear god. He needs to f**k off with this world cup every 2 years crap.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:24 pm

Phil71 wrote:What damaged the club was his being given the permission to wear too many hats, and owners who are only interested in money and being prepared to settle for second best in footballing terms as long as their financial targets are met.

Wenger's remit should have been football management alone, and he should have had to answer to someone above him for his performance. Instead he was given this disastrous hybrid role where he had responsibilities for football AND finances and basically answered to nobody. As a result the footballing side suffered and gradually went downhill. And the owners were quite happy to let him get on with it as long as he kept the club in the CL.

To be fair I will add that the money available at Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd during most of that time gave their managers a significant advantage. But what those managers also did was knock on the owner's door and ask for the money. Wenger instead would open the balance sheet and tell himself that he couldn't have any, and that in the best interests of the club he should continue with Denilson and Cygan .


Wenger recently did an interview alongside Klopp.
In it, he admitted that he spent less time on football than he should have because he was doing other jobs.
Really bad management from him, to let himself get sidetracked like that.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Ach » Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:13 pm

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Postby Power n Glory » Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:48 pm

It's a horrible idea and as a former manager of a club, I'm surprised he is proposing it knowing how much of a headache international football can pose for a club.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Phil71 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:13 pm

Yeah leave it at every four years.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Angelito » Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:33 pm

In terms of developing the entire game, a 2-year World Cup makes sense. Remember, this isn't about Europe alone.

For smaller countries, a WC every two years gives them more meaningful matches. That results in more engagement of local fans. It boosts interest in the game. More sponsorship, more discourse about the game. More money. More youngsters willing to consider it a viable career option.

That allows youths to pursue football as a career in such countries. Not just as players. As coaches, physios, technicians, dieticians, etc., which results in greater engagement that would only enhance the quality of players and coaches.

In turn, for club football, it would mean a wider pool of talents to choose from. Newer ideas, newer perspectives, newer styles.

For national teams, it would create a better foundation for their growth, for the development of infrastructure and academies, in the development of football globally.

It's not an outrageous idea. Europe is better off without a biennial World Cup. That's not the case for most continents. A biennial World Cup does more for football than an inferior Europa League, the Nations League, or the new Conference League.

Casuals don't care about such competitions. They're mostly engaged by the World Cup, Euros, or Copa America.

The present qualification system is already rigged in favor of European nations. Unlike in South America where you get high quality, intense games during qualifications, most of the qualifying games in Europe is a foregone conclusion.

While I do feel that a World Cup every 2 years seems too soon, I also believe that a olympiad World Cup is too much for the modern era. Every three years sounds reasonable, however, people love even numbers. I do feel they will compromise and initiate an event every three years.

Nonetheless, I'm fine with this proposition. Much rather have a biennial World Cup than stupid competitions like the Nations League or the Conference League. It would also intensify the qualifications, which for most top nations in Europe is a formality these days.

Wenger is FIFA's global development chief. Not surprising that he's backing this idea. It does help develop football globally.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby LMAO » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:34 pm

Disagree.

I'm A-OK with the World Cup remaining on a four year cycle. A two (or three) year cycle would get too stale and repetitive. The magic and splendor of the World Cup lies in its scarcity.

What happens to continental competitions? Are we going to have a World Cup and a EUROs, Copa America, Gold Cup, AFCON, Asian Cup every two years or major international competition every summer? What about the players' health? Don't they deserve a break every now and then to give us good club football too? A scenario like that I can see turning into our Gold Cup nonsense. Every other cycle results in nations like the USA and Mexico sending their B-teams (or mainly a C-team this summer for us). And, I don't want to give up the Gold Cup since it's the only international competition we can realistically win for the time being.

But, a biennial World Cup will be a huge moneymaker, which is why FIFA execs will likely plow ahead.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Ach » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:38 pm

Keep it as it is

Wenger trying to stay relevant. That's all this is
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:53 pm

Angelito wrote:In terms of developing the entire game, a 2-year World Cup makes sense. Remember, this isn't about Europe alone.



AFCON has already had to switch to odd-numbered years so as not to overlap with Euro and WC schedules.

They will have almost no PR and no audience if the new format World Cup with 48 teams is happening every 2 years. The top players will want to preserve their strength for WC qualifiers instead of AFCON, to the point where the tournament becomes marginalized further.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Ach » Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:05 pm

https://talksport.com/football/947993/a ... s-arsenal/

Looks like he didn't see the last few years either

Forgets to mention atletico being down to 10 men for the majority of the first leg, finishing second to Leicester is not an achievement either
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