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Re: Merci Arsène

Postby EliteKiller » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:40 am

Lot of ill-informed comments on FFP - FFP was not intended to stop spending, or indeed level the playing field, it was designed to prevent clubs getting into financial difficulties through gross miss-management ... something that was happening a lot a few years back.

Today clubs have little choice but to keep their spending in line with their income, even as income has risen hugely expense lines have been kept in check ... look at Utd and how whilst income has gone up 40% wages have only increased by 35% keeping them at less than 50% ... because they have the biggest income Utd can spend the most on wages that hasn't changed, however they have had to keep their wages at a sensible business level, and that was the planned function of FFP ...

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The same goes with profits ... City have seen a huge increase in income, but only by cutting back on wages (down 3% last year) have they been able to bring profit/loss back into line with FFP .... again preventing unsustainable loss was the FFP remit

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Sadly we are the exception ... in a way victims of our own success achieving high income ten years before our rivals, but we've also lost control of the wages budget .... wages have gone from 47% to 57% in just 12 months, another year with no CL will cripple us financially ... whilst City, Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea are all seeing wages percentages drop to around 50% (Spuds wages spend is just so low they don't even register) our percentage is the only one going the other way ...

Why should we worry? it's not our money? ... because wages (not bundles of cash) is now the defining factor for all clubs wanting to stay compliment with FFP ... with income levels at 400/500m it's just not possible for a Sheikh, an Oligarch or even a US Billionaire to financially dope an EPL club, UEFA FFP and the EPL's own financial rules can and will see right through illegal cash support. They already are ....

To spend more any club has to keep it's income growing and it's wages at somewhere between 45% and 55% of revenue ... in 2018 we were hit by the double whammy of falling income and big new salaries ...

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this year we've already lost a chunk of that salary and with luck a few of those big earners will be moved on ... however with once again little chance of a substantial income increase in 2019 then adding much back into the salary budget is just not going happen ... so don't get your hopes up ...
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Re: Merci Arsène

Postby StLGooner » Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:56 pm

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Re: Merci Arsène

Postby EliteKiller » Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:07 am

StLGooner wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/sports/arsenal-icon-wenger-hints-premier-113241928.html


Looking at the complete carnage he's left here why on earth would anyone touch this dinosaur? out of touch, out of his depth, and quite possibly out of his mind .... well I guess that might work at Newcastle ....
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Emeryates » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:22 pm

He must be feeling pretty smug watching Emery be an idiot
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Nuggets » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:31 pm

Emeryates wrote:He must be feeling pretty smug watching Emery be an idiot


Why is Emery being an idiot?
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby EliteKiller » Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:33 am

Emeryates wrote:He must be feeling pretty smug watching Emery be an idiot


He must know his chances of getting another job are zero as the world watches Emery try and deal with the utter shambles Arsene created at Arsenal ...
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:24 am

EliteKiller wrote:
Emeryates wrote:He must be feeling pretty smug watching Emery be an idiot


He must know his chances of getting another job are zero as the world watches Emery try and deal with the utter shambles Arsene created at Arsenal ...


Both statements are true.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Nuggets » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:01 am

EliteKiller wrote:
Emeryates wrote:He must be feeling pretty smug watching Emery be an idiot


He must know his chances of getting another job are zero as the world watches Emery try and deal with the utter shambles Arsene created at Arsenal ...


Spot on, he left us in the shit thats for sure.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Angelito » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:23 pm

EliteKiller wrote:
Emeryates wrote:He must be feeling pretty smug watching Emery be an idiot


He must know his chances of getting another job are zero as the world watches Emery try and deal with the utter shambles Arsene created at Arsenal ...


if being out of the UCL for two seasons is shambles, I'd take such shambles every single day.

Without any super owner backing him, Wenger achieved miracles at Arsenal. Was he out of his depth by his finals years? Sure, he was. But that doesn't nullify his epic moments with Arsenal F.C.

Arsenal have never been as successful as it was under Wenger. It's a fact.

It's time we recognized his greatness. If only we had unlimited money as United, Chelsea, and City have had in the Prem era, we'd be far better off.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Emeryates » Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:28 pm

Angelito wrote:Arsenal have never been as successful as it was under Wenger. It's a fact.


https://www.arsenal.com/first-team/honours

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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby UFGN » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:22 pm

Won three titles in 22 years

And directly cost us two (2009 and 2016)

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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:49 pm

Angelito wrote:It's time we recognized his greatness. If only we had unlimited money as United, Chelsea, and City have had in the Prem era, we'd be far better off.


............ because spending lots of money is something Wenger loved to do?

Wenger literally won't even take a job (Madrid, PSG etc) where spending your way to a title is practically a requirement.

Arsene always loved the philosophy more than he did winning, unlike Alex Fergusson.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Angelito » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:04 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
Angelito wrote:It's time we recognized his greatness. If only we had unlimited money as United, Chelsea, and City have had in the Prem era, we'd be far better off.


............ because spending lots of money is something Wenger loved to do?

Wenger literally won't even take a job (Madrid, PSG etc) where spending your way to a title is practically a requirement.

Arsene always loved the philosophy more than he did winning, unlike Alex Fergusson.


All you guys have is hatred for Wenger. Look at yourself.

You know inside your heart that we're f***ked with this ownership and we don't have a manager like Wenger who loved the club.

Please explain it to that guy who posted above you.

You know it. Wenger was past it. But he was the only one who loved Arsenal.

Wenger did what was right. Unlike SAF, he wasn't managing the richest club around. You know that. You know it.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby Emeryates » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:08 pm

I love the club, but I know I'd be an insanely bad manager that would deserve the criticism I got. Loving the club doesn't shield you from criticism for not doing well.
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Re: In Arsène We Shall Always Trust ~ Victoria Concordia Cre

Postby UFGN » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:28 pm

I don't care if the manager loves the club

Other managers we've had have loved the club and got sacked when they deserved it instead of seven or so years late

Our founder loved the club and was denied a place on the board of directors because he wasn't qualified
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