Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby Schlandi » Wed May 31, 2017 3:26 pm

Sims wrote:Don't we hold the record for most minutes without conceding a goal in CL history


What a record :hail:
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Wed May 31, 2017 3:44 pm

Sims wrote:Don't we hold the record for most minutes without conceding a goal in CL history


Yes, the one season we over-achieved.

Ironic we made the final when we had no business being there, but didn't make a dent in the competition when our squad was among the world's best.
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby Sims » Wed May 31, 2017 4:15 pm

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Sims wrote:Don't we hold the record for most minutes without conceding a goal in CL history


Yes, the one season we over-achieved.

Ironic we made the final when we had no business being there, but didn't make a dent in the competition when our squad was among the world's best.


Yeah if we had the same siege mentality for the early 2000's I think we could've done it but it would've been a crime to play shit football with such a talented side
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby Angelito » Wed May 31, 2017 4:30 pm

I don't think the issue is Wenger alone. He took us to two finals, and once you're in a final, players have a responsibility too. In the case of Vieira and Henry leaving to win the CL, it's laughable as they were part of both finals and lost. Vieira even missed from the spot in 2000, whereas Henry missed a one-on-one that'd have clinched the deal for us in 2000. Not to mention how both Henry and DB10 were poor in the final against Galatasaray. In 2006, we were 13 minutes away from winning the CL. In 2000, we lost on penalties. Both are unfortunate losses.

Wenger's track record in Europe isn't good, but we cannot blame him for not winning a European trophy during our Highbury days.


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Sims wrote:Don't we hold the record for most minutes without conceding a goal in CL history


Yes, the one season we over-achieved.

Ironic we made the final when we had no business being there, but didn't make a dent in the competition when our squad was among the world's best.


Yeah if we had the same siege mentality for the early 2000's I think we could've done it but it would've been a crime to play shit football with such a talented side


Real Madrid seem to be doing it, so meh.
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby OptimusPrimett » Wed May 31, 2017 6:17 pm

imagine if wenger had those champions league and uefa's title on his cv we were so close to winning

3 Premier league's, 7 FA cups, 1 Champions League, 1 UEFA Cup.

my assessment of him as a manger would probably different which is weird considering he's been gash for a decade
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Wed May 31, 2017 6:21 pm

OptimusPrimett wrote:imagine if wenger had those champions league and uefa's title on his cv we were so close to winning

3 Premier league's, 7 FA cups, 1 Champions League, 1 UEFA Cup.

my assessment of him as a manger would probably different which is weird considering he's been gash for a decade


Imagine he'd also won the league in '08 like he should have done: no trophy drought and no issue with our best players leaving all the time - everything would be different.
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby OptimusPrimett » Wed May 31, 2017 6:26 pm

^^^he just cant go the distance anymore^^^

last time we got more points than spurs did this season was 03/04
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby tufnelltoughie » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:08 pm

Being good enough to win the Premier League doesn't always equate to being good enough to win the Champions League, think about it.
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:33 pm

Because Wenger is the most under achieving manager in European football history. By far.
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby Sims » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:46 pm

would've been so different if titi could've finished chances he would bag bindfolded against the likes of blackburn

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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby Cripps » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:48 pm

Was Etoos goal offside?

Can never watch that again or highlights
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:56 pm

Sims wrote:would've been so different if titi could've finished chances he would bag bindfolded against the likes of blackburn



Tbf Henry only had two chances in that match.

The first one was a half chance, I don't even hold it against him; it only occurred because Henry took one of the most exquisite first touches ever seen. He deftly toe punted the ball and put spin on it.

No other player in the world could have conjured that chance, he created it entirely himself when he had no right to. Valdes was also right on top of him, so he gets a pass there.

The 1 on 1 is the one will forever haunt me.

But everyone knows Henry's trademark finish was always left to right: he'd come in from the left, open his body up and side-foot it into the bottom right corner.

I can't recall an Henry goal where he came in from the right and finished across the keeper, which is what he tried to do there.

Still no excuse though, at the very least he should've put his laces through it.
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby Cripps » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:14 pm

Don't blame him for the first one. Couldn't do much else and Valdes did very well

2nd one, you can see Valdes was going that way even before Henry shot. Bit of nuance, go near post and its in.
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby Sims » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:30 pm

henry was the best striker in the world for years at that point. that first chance shouldve really been in the back of the net for someone of his calibre at the time, even if valdes pulled off a great save. everything was trademark thierry up until the finish, his usual composure and arrogance on the finish ditched him on the occasion imo
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Re: Why did the Invincibles underachieve in Europe?

Postby Cripps » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:38 pm

If anything he hit it too clean.

If he mishits that, it goes under a flying keeper and in

No one ever goes out to scuff a shot though.

If he did what he did, if he blasts it, it hits Valdes no matter what cos he was too close. It was great keeping
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