The Wizard of Özil

Post any questions you have relating to the history of Arsenal,
or come in and read all about your beloved club Arsenal.

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Jedi » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:18 am

Angelito wrote:

:cool:

I wish we had one too... Unfortunately we only have Ozil who is a husk of his former self and offers nothing to the team.
User avatar
Jedi
Dennis Bergkamp
Dennis Bergkamp
 
Posts: 6579
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:47 pm

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby VCC » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:30 am

Ozil did jack shit for two seasons against teams setting up exactly as Leicester did today.
Imo Ozil wouldnt have changed a thing,
Try moving the ball up the pitch faster be a better option.
User avatar
VCC
Bertie Mee
Bertie Mee
 
Posts: 9649
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:04 am

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:49 am

VCC wrote:Ozil did jack shit for two seasons against teams setting up exactly as Leicester did today.
Imo Ozil wouldnt have changed a thing,
Try moving the ball up the pitch faster be a better option.

So we don’t even want the option of having him on the bench while we pay him through our nose?
swipe right
Tony Adams
Tony Adams
 
Posts: 3063
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:05 am

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:50 am

The club has not been honest with why Ozil was sidelined. The excuse that he doesn’t fit in just doesn’t add up. It’s either money or China.
swipe right
Tony Adams
Tony Adams
 
Posts: 3063
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:05 am

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby LMAO » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:57 am

It's his refusal to take a pay cut imo

But his declining effectiveness also ain't wrong.
User avatar
LMAO
Member of the Year 2019
Member of the Year 2019
 
Posts: 9379
Joined: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:53 pm

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby VCC » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:42 am

swipe right wrote:
VCC wrote:Ozil did jack shit for two seasons against teams setting up exactly as Leicester did today.
Imo Ozil wouldnt have changed a thing,
Try moving the ball up the pitch faster be a better option.

So we don’t even want the option of having him on the bench while we pay him through our nose?

Your mrs fucks your best mate but you decide to take her back because the divorce is too expensive!
He wasnt good enough what's changed move on
User avatar
VCC
Bertie Mee
Bertie Mee
 
Posts: 9649
Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:04 am

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Nuggets » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:15 am

swipe right wrote:The club has not been honest with why Ozil was sidelined. The excuse that he doesn’t fit in just doesn’t add up. It’s either money or China.


Or he is shite :arse fan:
Image
User avatar
Nuggets
Predictions League 2011-12, 2016-17 Winner
Predictions League 2011-12, 2016-17 Winner
 
Posts: 18826
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:16 pm
Location: Sunny Turkey, now.

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:33 am

Ex players now lining up on Ozil's side.
Koscielny and now Merson too has flip flopped back to saying Ozil should play.

What a mess Arteta had created.
Quite obvious that Ozil had to play.
First name on the team sheet.
No matter how bad it gets, at least we don't have to put up with Wenger anymore
User avatar
jayramfootball
Bertie Mee
Bertie Mee
 
Posts: 8600
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:58 pm
Location: Midlands UK

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Angelito » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:14 am

The Erasure of Mesut Özil

LONDON — Everything started with a tweet. Mesut Özil knew the risks, in December last year, when he decided to offer a startling, public denunciation both of China’s treatment of the Uighurs, a largely Muslim minority in the region of Xinjiang, and the complicit silence of the international community.

Friends and advisers had warned Özil, the Arsenal midfielder, that there would be consequences. He would have to write off China as a market. His six million followers on Weibo, the country’s largest social network, would disappear. His fan club there — with as many as 50,000 signed-up members — would go, too. He would never play in China. He might become too toxic even for any club with Chinese owners, or sponsors eager to do business there.

Özil knew this was not fearmongering. He was aware of China’s furious response — both institutionally and organically — to a tweet by Daryl Morey, the general manager of the N.B.A.’s Houston Rockets, only a few weeks earlier. Yet Özil was adamant. He had been growing increasingly outraged by the situation in Xinjiang for months, watching documentaries, consuming news reports. He believed it was his duty, he told his advisers, not so much to highlight the issue but to pressure Muslim-majority nations — including Turkey, whose president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, had served as best man at Özil’s wedding — to intercede.

And so he pressed send.

How much of what followed can be traced back to that tweet is contested. Özil is convinced that is the moment everything changed. Arsenal is just as adamant that it is not. There is no easy, neat way of bridging the divide between those perspectives. Perhaps both are true. Perhaps neither is. Neither Özil nor Arsenal was willing to discuss their differences on the record.

The outcome, regardless, is the same. A few days after Özil went public, the Premier League’s two broadcast partners in China, CCTV and PP Sports, refused to air an Arsenal match. When the latter did deign to show Arsenal again, its commentators refused to say Özil’s name.

His avatar was removed from video games. Searching the internet for his name in China brought up error messages. (It was reported his Weibo account was disabled, though that was not true.) Very deliberately, though, and seemingly at the behest of an authoritarian government, Mesut Özil was being erased.

If it felt, at the time, as if that was as bad as it would get, it was not. As it turned out, Özil’s disappearing was just beginning.

The Pay Cut

In hindsight, Arsenal’s reaction to Özil’s decision to speak out was — at least — inconsistent. Publicly, the club moved quickly to distance itself from his comments. Privately, it considered punishing him.

His tweet, and a simultaneous Instagram post to his more than 20 million followers on that service, had caused considerable problems — not just at Arsenal, but also for the Premier League. China, after all, was its largest foreign broadcast partner, and its biggest foreign market, and the league could not afford — even in a pre-Covid-19 world — to have its games blacked out, to have its sponsors and its fans close their wallets.

“In China, a lot of the audience are not aware of the nature of the relationship between an association, a league and a player in foreign countries,” said Zhe Ji, the director of Red Lantern, a sports marketing company that works in China for both the Premier League and a number of its teams. “They see in China the football association is in full control of the league, which is in control of the player. It puts teams, leagues and individuals in an awkward position. There is a cultural confusion.”

Conscious of that, Arsenal executives urged Özil to avoid political statements, or at least to ensure he avoided any association with the club if he continued to make them. When the club sent out its merchandising celebrating Chinese New Year, it made sure to remove Özil from any of the materials.

Eager to avoid the kind of public dispute that had imperiled the N.B.A.’s billion-dollar business relationship with China, the Premier League did its best to stay above the fray. But the league and its clubs seem to pick and choose their interventions. A few months after Özil’s tweet, players representing the Premier League’s 20 clubs — Arsenal’s Hector Bellerin was a leading advocate — informed the league that they would begin purposeful displays of support for the Black Lives Matter movement during games. The league quickly acquiesced to its players’ political awakening.

And last week, after Arsenal’s captain, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, tweeted in support of protests against police violence in Africa, the club issued its own statement. “To our Nigerian fans,” it began. “We see you. We hear you. We feel you.”

“It is becoming increasingly important that you have a point of view on this stuff,” said Tim Crow, a sponsorship consultant. “If you don’t, sooner or later the spotlight will turn on you, and people will ask questions about your values.”

Özil’s mistake, then, appears to be less that he had made a political statement and more that he had picked the wrong issue.

By the time the Premier League was discussing Black Lives Matter in the summer, of course, the world had changed. The coronavirus had forced soccer into a three-month hiatus, and Arsenal, like every other club, was coming to terms with the financial ramifications. Soon a new discussion began at Arsenal, about whether the team’s well-paid players should accept salary cuts. And almost immediately Özil’s stance on that issue, too, was widening the chasm between him and his club.

Even after his tweet about China, Özil played a reasonably prominent role for Arsenal in the first few months of 2020. Mikel Arteta, the club’s new coach, had insisted in his interview for the job that he wanted to work with Özil, a former teammate, to see if he could coax the club’s highest-paid player back to his best.

That relationship seems to have foundered as the club pressed its players to surrender some of their salaries to ease Arsenal’s cash crunch. The talks lasted for six weeks, and by late April the majority had fallen in line.

Özil, though, still had questions. He had asked Arsenal’s senior leadership for detailed answers on what the savings would be used for, whether the club’s owner would also be contributing, and whether the team could assure him it would use the money to protect its nonplaying staff.

He did not feel those issues were satisfactorily addressed (though the club does). After a final Zoom call, in which Arteta urged his players to “do the right thing,” Özil remained unmoved.

In June, the 12.5 percent wage cut was made official, and the players were presented with paperwork backdating the changes to April. Most signed immediately. Half a dozen or so lingered. Özil stood firm. Again, he knew the risk: that he might be ostracized by the club, that it might effectively end his career at Arsenal by refusing. It made no difference.

Özil has not played for Arsenal since. In August, two months after winning the wage concessions from its players, the club — citing the continuing financial impact of the pandemic — announced that it had parted company with 55 staff members. Özil took a particular interest in one of them.

The Dinosaur

There is, perhaps, no better indication of just how all-encompassing the distrust between Özil and Arsenal has become than the fact that, along with his political activism and his refusal to accept a pay cut, at least part of the tension between the parties relates to an argument over a dinosaur.

Earlier this month, it emerged that Arsenal had parted company with Jerry Quy, a lifelong fan who has spent the last 27 years dressing up as an oversize green dinosaur (possibly; his species is unclear) standing on the sideline during games. Quy is the human behind Gunnersaurus, Arsenal’s slightly ironically beloved mascot.

His dismissal was, to put it mildly, a public-relations disaster. Özil, immediately, seized on it, volunteering to pay Quy’s salary until fans were permitted to return to English stadiums and Gunnersaurus could return. The club was furious.

It felt, from the outside, as if Özil was trolling Arsenal. It is certainly possible that he was. It was just as clear that for good or (mostly) ill, player and club were inextricably bound together.

The club had tried to sell Özil in the summer of 2018 and in the summer of 2019, and more recently it had been negotiating with him over buying out most of the remainder of his contract.

Özil, though, was unwilling to budge. Why that might be — again — is a matter of debate. Some at the club believe that, newly married and with an infant daughter, he feels settled in London and does not want to move. Many fans assume he is simply happy to collect his multimillion-dollar salary until his contract expires next year, content to be paid not to play soccer.

Together with the international incident his tweet provoked, and coupled with the news media whispers — fiercely denied by those close to him, and never publicly stated by the club — that his attitude is lax and his inspiration gone, Özil seems to have developed a reputation. Soccer as a whole seems to have decided that the trouble he brings outweighs his talent.

For months, a World Cup-winning playmaker has been available at a heavy discount. And yet nobody, certainly in Europe, has been willing to take him on.

The Beginning of the End

Özil, 32, insists it is his “love” for Arsenal that keeps him there. He had opportunities to leave over the course of this summer, according to a soccer executive with knowledge of the offers, but none that appealed. The size of his salary — and perhaps his reputation as troublesome — severely limits his options, even as Arsenal is so keen to move him on that it is prepared to pay two-thirds of his contract to make it happen.

It was only in the last week that the reality of his situation set in. He had already been left out of Arsenal’s squad for this season’s Europa League — he live-tweeted its game against Rapid Vienna on Thursday night from home — when he was told he would not be in the list for the Premier League campaign, either.

With the transfer window closed until January, it is, now, too late for him to leave. Until then, at the earliest, he finds himself in soccer exile: one of his own making, of his club’s making, one that there does not seem to have a way out.

He believes it started with the tweet. Arsenal disputes that. Wherever it began, this is where it has led: 10 months later, Mesut Özil has, effectively, been erased.


New York Times
Image
User avatar
Angelito
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
 
Posts: 29376
Joined: Fri May 25, 2012 9:32 am
Location: The Overlook Hotel

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:20 am

EliteKiller wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:Arteta did this to himself which is another reason I'm pissed at him right now.

When we were playing 3-4-3 I backed Arteta's decision to oust Ozil all the way because it made sense, we had to field CM's that could defend.

But he basically sacks Ozil from the squad and then within 24hrs later he goes and tries possession football, then does it again today and we play absolutely foul through lack of incisive CAM play and it just looks terrible.

How Arteta has gone from saviour to amatuer hour and he did it all to himself, if he stuck with what he was doing there would still be no room for Ozil, but he's literally screaming out for CAM's now.

Just really disappointing and because I saw this with Emery I just don't have faith again that Arteta will figure this out.


I'm not defending the actions of the club or Arteta, no idea what went on behind the scenes but clearly we've made a right mess of the whole Ozil shitshow ... but that's no longer the point.

The club can't afford another season where the fan base is split over one person (Wenger,Emery, Arteta all fell down over Ozil) creating a feeding frenzy in the media and on social media, that poison just infiltrates the whole club and we will continue to fail.

There is no longer a choice back Arteta get rid of Ozil and move on - or back Ozil sack Arteta and start again ...

However if we give power to an ageing overpaid under-performing player over our trainee manager we will never live that down.

Arteta wouldn't have to lose face if he didn't make such a stupid decision in the first place. Nobody has or is claiming Ozil to be the saviour of anything, what we are saying is surely - and especially now we have Partey, Ozil could've played a part in helping the team creatively.

I agree, if Arteta brings Ozil back now that will be an even bigger embarrassng u-turn than Emery was forced to make.

There was absolutely no benefit in not registering Ozil to play. Arteta has no options and MUST make this thing work.
User avatar
theHotHead
Herbert Chapman
Herbert Chapman
 
Posts: 10033
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:44 am
Location: Norf Landon

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:24 am

^make no mistake - this is about China and their money and influence.
Nothing to do with football.

Summed up in 1 line from the article.

Özil’s mistake, then, appears to be less that he had made a political statement and more that he had picked the wrong issue.
No matter how bad it gets, at least we don't have to put up with Wenger anymore
User avatar
jayramfootball
Bertie Mee
Bertie Mee
 
Posts: 8600
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:58 pm
Location: Midlands UK

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Gunpowder » Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:04 am

Uighur tweet was in December. He plenty afterwards. Refusal of a wage cut is the more likely reason
User avatar
Gunpowder
Dennis Bergkamp
Dennis Bergkamp
 
Posts: 7603
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:48 pm
Location: İstanbul, Turkey

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:57 pm

Gunpowder wrote:Uighur tweet was in December. He plenty afterwards. Refusal of a wage cut is the more likely reason

Tweet was in December, the fallout takes time though. Football ended in February/March didn't it ??
User avatar
theHotHead
Herbert Chapman
Herbert Chapman
 
Posts: 10033
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:44 am
Location: Norf Landon

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:03 pm

jayramfootball wrote:^make no mistake - this is about China and their money and influence.
Nothing to do with football.

Summed up in 1 line from the article.

Özil’s mistake, then, appears to be less that he had made a political statement and more that he had picked the wrong issue.

Evidently Arsenal has closed it’s offices all over Asia. Only the China office remains open.
swipe right
Tony Adams
Tony Adams
 
Posts: 3063
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:05 am

Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby gooney » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:38 pm

LMAO wrote:It's his refusal to take a pay cut imo

But his declining effectiveness also ain't wrong.

The china comments really pissed off the club, but due to pr they couldnt drop him for it. But the moment he questioned the clubs intentions with pay cut they had their excuse and had something they could please the chinese commies. Either way the club has been lying through its teeth and its insult for the manager to come out and lie over and over to the fans. He can do one as far as Im concerned. This team has zero creativity and again we saw last night and they tell us Ozil couldnt contribute nothing. We are bottom 3 in terms of creating and shooting on goal in the league
gooney
SE13
SE13
 
Posts: 15697
Joined: Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:11 pm

PreviousNext

Return to The History Of Arsenal FC

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest