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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Ach » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:22 am

We'd be fighting Burnley

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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Angelito » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:13 am

Petty, pathetic by the club and the manager.

To not have a space on the bench for the player who holds the fastest to 50 assists record in England when we're devoid of any sort of creativity.


BS221B wrote:Casillas vs Mourinho all over again.

Budget Mourinho Emery is living up his name.


Budget Mourinho with an ego bigger than the Special One, it would appear.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Dynamite » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:25 am

Angelito wrote:
Dynamite wrote:Silva 76 assists since 2013/2014
Özil 73 assists since 2013/2014

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I guess the stats above are outdated. :think:


Okay, Jose.

Transfermarkt have a different metric.

Could you please compare their stats from the Prem's official website, please? I can't be bothered.


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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Angelito » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:31 am

Dynamite wrote:
Angelito wrote:
Dynamite wrote:Silva 76 assists since 2013/2014
Özil 73 assists since 2013/2014

/Transfermarkt

I guess the stats above are outdated. :think:


Okay, Jose.

Transfermarkt have a different metric.

Could you please compare their stats from the Prem's official website, please? I can't be bothered.


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Good to know that you're spraying toxicity around.

I'm still not sure how this is relevant to the point we were arguing about though. :dizzy:
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Angelito » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:01 am



I miss watching him play. :(
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Pudpop » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:07 am

For prem from 13/14 I have Ozil 51 and Silva 49 (incl this season)

For Europe I have Ozil 11 and Silva 7 (Ozil has 6 in the CL)

I don't have FA Cup or League cup stats.

Either way this is a pointless comparison. The assists per season stat does not actually contradict anything that Ozil's defenders have said. Ozil had a great season in 2015/16 and a decent one in 2016/17 (notice that he had his best goalscoring season that year). The other three years his tallies are only low because of his minutes played.

In 13/14 he only had 25 appearances for 2150 minutes
In 2014/15 he only had 21 appearances for 1860 minutes
In 2017/18 he only had 24 appearances for 2164 minutes

In those 3 seasons he had 9, 5 and 8 assists respectively. In 2015/16, Ozil played 3049 minutes for us. If we extrapolate his assists in the three seasons for that game time we get:

(3049/2150)*9 = 12.76 ~ 12 assists
(3049/1860)*5 = 8.19 ~ 8 assists
(3049/2164)*8 = 11.24 ~ 11 assists

So if he played more minutes it's reasonable to expect him to break your mystical 10 assists per season. So the real complaint shouldn't be his lack of assists but his lack of game time.

But none of this matters because you've already made your minds up anyway.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby theHotHead » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:24 am

Dynamite wrote:Silva 76 assists since 2013/2014
Özil 73 assists since 2013/2014

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I guess the stats above are outdated. :think:

Aye and look at the players Silva had/has around him compared to Ozil. Thanks for making our point for us.

Just imagine how many additional assists Ozil would have had with better quality teammates.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby theHotHead » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:33 am

Pudpop, alas you are applying common sense and logic where these people are not, it is often an alien concept to them.

We have had a dogshit poor manager for at least 3 seasons (Wenger) who lost all semblence of sanity and people want to bash Ozil for not getting more assists. Look at what he has had to work with for the longest time!!
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Sims » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:52 am

Still Mesut Ozil FC and not Arsenal FC imo tbh
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Losmeister » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:51 pm

Sims wrote:Still Mesut Ozil FC and not Arsenal FC imo tbh


is it VaVa who says "bare weird"? cos this whole ozil worship is bizarre.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Angelito » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:54 pm

Sims wrote:Still Mesut Ozil FC and not Arsenal FC imo tbh


Mesut <3


Losmeister wrote:
Sims wrote:Still Mesut Ozil FC and not Arsenal FC imo tbh


is it VaVa who says "bare weird"? cos this whole ozil worship is bizarre.


It's a custom at Arsenal to hate world class players.

Cba.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby BS221B » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:13 pm

Budget Mourinho thinks that both Mkhi and Iwobi are better than Ozil.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby theHotHead » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:54 pm

I still get excited by his name, seeing it on the teamsheet brings me joy. Can't say any other current player has that aura.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Ach » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:56 pm

Welbeck for me
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Goonerz » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:59 pm

Dynamite wrote:Silva 76 assists since 2013/2014
Özil 73 assists since 2013/2014

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I guess the stats above are outdated. :think:

And Silva has spent nearly half of his time at City playing on the wing.
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