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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby swipe right » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:55 am

Marsbar100 wrote:Its a shame wenger deprived us of seeing them both together, 2 most creative players of this generation after messi, we would have cut teams open at will

And they would have cut us right back. You can’t have two of your three midfielders being given permission to run off the ball into open spaces.
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby Arsenal Tone » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:05 am

The ozil vs cesc debate is a really interesting one.
Raya/Ramsdale
White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
???/Jorginho
Odegaard/Smith Rowe----Rice/???
Saka/Jesus-------------------Martinelli/Trossard
???/Havertz
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:46 pm

Raya/Ramsdale
White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
???/Jorginho
Odegaard/Smith Rowe----Rice/???
Saka/Jesus-------------------Martinelli/Trossard
???/Havertz
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby Ach » Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:48 pm

Now compare assists
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:50 pm

Arsenal Tone wrote:https://twitter.com/Jack10Gooner/status/1475152123373314051?t=hrutb_PQphKc_5HQroNVbg&s=19



Goals we're not Ozil's strength
ESR is not an Ozil like player - much more like Rosicky as someone said in the comments.
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:51 pm

Esr can be better than ozil
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:55 pm

Marsbar100 wrote:Esr can be better than ozil


ESR can be one of the very best players in the world if he keeps developing ay the pace he is.
Same with Saka.
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 6:57 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
Marsbar100 wrote:Esr can be better than ozil


ESR can be one of the very best players in the world if he keeps developing ay the pace he is.
Same with Saka.

Hopefully he can be our lampard double figures every year
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby Zenith » Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:58 pm

Marsbar100 wrote:Esr can be better than ozil

Whilst he certainly can spot and pick a pass, I don't think he'll ever get close to Özil's vision and passing range (few players do).

Having said that, I do believe ESR will end his career having scored more goals per ninety minutes played. Also feel he's more suited to the intensity with which the game is played today.
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby Fran Solo » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:23 am

If we should compare our current player with Ozil then it should be Odergaard instead of Smith-Rowe.
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby Angelito » Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:47 pm

Zenith wrote:
Marsbar100 wrote:Esr can be better than ozil

Whilst he certainly can spot and pick a pass, I don't think he'll ever get close to Özil's vision and passing range (few players do).

Having said that, I do believe ESR will end his career having scored more goals per ninety minutes played. Also feel he's more suited to the intensity with which the game is played today.


Sometimes I wonder if people really realize how elite Ozil was. Before KdB, he held the record for fastest-to-fifty PL assists whilst playing for an Arsenal side largely reliant on Alexis, Cazorla, and of course, Ozil.

Last time I checked, he was only behind Messi as far as assists tally went. He might still be in the top-3/4 right now.

As you (and Fran) indicated, ESR isn't anything like Ozil. If there were archetypes, he'd fall in the Kaká category. 'Course nowhere near as good as Kaká (for now at least).
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby Jedi » Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:05 pm

Dropped from the Fenerbahče squad lmao
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby Ach » Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:35 pm

He's refused to play cos of unpaid wages thus not in the squad

Nice try though
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

Postby mrblonde » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:18 pm

Or has Mesut Ozil failed someone for the last time?
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Re: The Wizard of Özil

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