by Fenice » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:22 pm
by Callum » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:44 pm
by Angelito » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:14 am
by Va-Va-Voom » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:57 am
Callum wrote:The man traded his legacy at Arsenal for a single Premier League trophy. He probably feels it was worth it, and that's fair enough. I don't hate the man but the nature of his departure means I've no affection for him and what he contributed during his time here.
by Phil71 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:32 am
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Callum wrote:The man traded his legacy at Arsenal for a single Premier League trophy. He probably feels it was worth it, and that's fair enough. I don't hate the man but the nature of his departure means I've no affection for him and what he contributed during his time here.
What legacy, the lone FA Cup he won back in 2005?
Fvck wasting your entire career with a club going nowhere just so when you're retired you can look back and say "at least I never left"...Some legacy that would be.
He left after dragging the worst squad Wenger ever had to 4th.
No one with RVP's talent would have stayed considering the absolute state the club with in back then.
by StLGooner » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:55 am
Angelito wrote:..., whilst single-handedly dragging that Arsenal cart-wheel in 11/12—having arguably the greatest solo season by a Gunner.
He paid us well before he left and unlike the likes of Cesc and Nasri, van Persie left because he was 29 and we weren't in any condition to win the Prem.
His legacy wouldn't have been any higher even if he had signed that extension. We wouldn't have won the Prem although Ozil playing behind van Persie in 13/14 would have been epic. Yet, I doubt, we would have bought Ozil if van Persie had stayed. It was a Wenger syndrome in the latter years—not buying what we needed.
The real problem is none of the Arsenal players of the Emirates era have a cherished legacy. The ones who should like Sagna, Ozil, Rosicky, Cazorla, and Koscielny are maligned for one reason or the other.
Alexis is in the van Persie boat.
Cesc is the worst of 'em all because of the way he conducted himself before leaving. He was also the closest to being a genuine son of Arsenal.
The likes of Nasri, Adebayor, Hleb—whilst great players—didn't leave Arsenal with as big an impact as some others have.
Arshavin is another iconic player, but of course, his legacy isn't all that significant in context.
I'd still say van Persie's legacy is bigger than his contemporaries at Arsenal. Personally, I've never received as much joy in football as I watched van Persie in 11/12. He will remain my 3rd fav Arsenal player (after Rosicky and Bergkamp).
Gooners, no less, aren't any better than the so called mercenaries they seem to dislike. Booing players and disliking almost every great player we've had in the Emirates era, whilst honoring Ramsey, Walcott, and Giroud like they are club legends, tells us everything we need to know about the wrongs of this time.
by Va-Va-Voom » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:18 pm
Phil71 wrote:I wish him nothing but bad luck.
by Ach » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:13 pm
by Va-Va-Voom » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:44 pm
Ach wrote:He's a c***. Not sure why anyone thinks otherwise.
Bigger c***, rvp or cesc?
by Ach » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:51 pm
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Ach wrote:He's a c***. Not sure why anyone thinks otherwise.
Bigger c***, rvp or cesc?
Thinking someone is a c*** and wishing them bad luck are not the same.
by Phil71 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:37 pm
Ach wrote:He's a c***. Not sure why anyone thinks otherwise.
Bigger c***, rvp or cesc?
by themessiah » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:21 pm
by Callum » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:24 pm
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Callum wrote:The man traded his legacy at Arsenal for a single Premier League trophy. He probably feels it was worth it, and that's fair enough. I don't hate the man but the nature of his departure means I've no affection for him and what he contributed during his time here.
What legacy, the lone FA Cup he won back in 2005?
Fvck wasting your entire career with a club going nowhere just so when you're retired you can look back and say "at least I never left"...Some legacy that would be.
He left after dragging the worst squad Wenger ever had to 4th.
No one with RVP's talent would have stayed considering the absolute state the club with in back then.
by UFGN » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:34 pm
by Ach » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:33 pm
Phil71 wrote:Ach wrote:He's a c***. Not sure why anyone thinks otherwise.
Bigger c***, rvp or cesc?
van persie by a mile.
The Fabregas circumstances were completely different and much more understandable.