Robin van Persie ~ The Flying Dutchman

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Re: Robin van Persie ~ The Flying Dutchman

Postby Nuggets » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:07 pm

VCC wrote:The modern day Frank Staplecunt


Very true, Judas.
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Re: Robin van Persie ~ The Flying Dutchman

Postby swipe right » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:34 pm

Nobody in all of football likes him.
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Re: Robin van Persie ~ The Flying Dutchman

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:41 pm

swipe right wrote:Nobody in all of football likes him.


United fans do, why wouldn't they?
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Re: Robin van Persie ~ The Flying Dutchman

Postby Angelito » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:04 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:
swipe right wrote:Nobody in all of football likes him.


United fans do, why wouldn't they?


Think from a legacy point of view, van Persie is stranded. He's neither here, nor there.

Whilst van Persie is both Arsenal and United's best player this decade, yet, he doesn't quite hold that legend status in either club.

It's the same with Cesc. Barca fans treat him the way we treat Xhaka. Arsenal fans are disgruntled. Chelsea fans do seem to like him, but he's nowhere near the real legends at the club.

In contrast, look at Rosicky. He didn't achieve as much as van Persie or Cesc did here even though I'd argue that he's more talented than both of them. But there's a certain amount of fondness surrounding him and that fondness will only grow as years pass by.

Ditto for Cazorla.

Btw, I'd consider van Persie a PL legend though.
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Re: Robin van Persie ~ The Flying Dutchman

Postby Power n Glory » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:26 am

If I was a player, I wouldn't want to end my career with regret and not fulfilling my potential. I think we as fans imagine what could have been if we had kept RVP and Cesc more than they imagine what could have been if they had stayed with Arsenal.
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Re: Robin van Persie ~ The Flying Dutchman

Postby Angelito » Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:11 am

I don't blame van Persie for leaving. He had one last shot at a league title and he left.

I do feel bitter towards Cesc than van Persie. Cesc had age on his side. He was the supposed heir of Xavi. He went to Barca. They realized he wasn't as good. He played as Messi's backup as a false #9. Eventually, Barca stated in their website that they're selling Cesc because he only turns up for half of the season, which was the case at Arsenal. Then, he joined Chelsea.

So, the redemption arc isn't any better than van Persie's if you want to be picky.

I, however, refuse to believe that we didn't offer van Persie a contract extension. That's bullshit. We might have offered him a 3-year deal at £130k a week, but we did offer him something.

We also rejected Juve's £15m bid for van Persie, which left him with Man City or Man United. So, we're as much to blame for the entire episode.

It's absolutely shameful that we happily awarded the league title to ManU. Disgusting behavior by the club. That's one of Wenger's major flaws. He never did seem to have an ego or a spine for that matter.
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Re: Robin van Persie ~ The Flying Dutchman

Postby Phil71 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:16 pm

Power n Glory wrote:If I was a player, I wouldn't want to end my career with regret and not fulfilling my potential. I think we as fans imagine what could have been if we had kept RVP and Cesc more than they imagine what could have been if they had stayed with Arsenal.


No problem with that.

It's the manner in which it is done, and what they say and do afterwards that shapes people's opinions of them.

In his case he's still telling lies and alienating himself even further away from Arsenal fans.
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