27/10/19 | Arsenal 2-2 Crystal Palace | Premier League

Re: 27/10/19 | Arsenal vs Crystal Palace | Premier League

Postby Parzival38 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:39 am

Özim wrote:Got what we deserved IMO, another poor performance, from 2-0 up we should have put this game to bed, but yet again we mess up and drop points.

Emery once again proves why he's not good enough, these kind of performances are happening week in week out and to be honest, sicne he arrived he's been very poor, last season his team couldn't perform in the 1st half for months and we never ahead at half time for ages, then there's was the calamitous collapse at the end of last season.

Then onto this season which in the league has been a disaster, poor performance after poor performance and dropped points left right and centre, he can't go soon enough IMO, the longer he staysthe worse it's going to get, would rather give someone else a chance to build something rather than waste time on him, he's not up to it and he proves it every single week.


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Re: 27/10/19 | Arsenal vs Crystal Palace | Premier League

Postby Parzival38 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:59 am

coolaa wrote:Chambers Torreira
Ozil

Should be our 3 central midfielders. Yes ozil is lazy and doesn't go for 50-50, but with Chambers and Torreira as defensive mids, we can afford to include ozil.


Not sure about this as a midfield 3, but Ozil has to start. This lack of creativity is killing us. Someone needs to force Emery's hand and tell him that Ozil starts no matter what. Build the team around him! Play the guy every game, let him get a run of games and a chance to build some fitness and form, and he could transform our season!

How can Ozil fail with the pace that we have in our team all over the pitch?! Picking out runners is what he does. Emery needs to swallow his pride and wake up, or he will pay with his job. Ozil can't be happy on the bench. He must know that Arsenal is the last big club he will play for, so he must want to make a success of it.

Start the guy. What else is there to do?

£350k a week for nothing when you desperately need him on the pitch. Seriously???
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Re: 27/10/19 | Arsenal vs Crystal Palace | Premier League

Postby Salibatelli » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:09 am

Ach wrote:
Özim wrote:
Ach wrote:
Özim wrote:Got what we deserved IMO, another poor performance, from 2-0 up we should have put this game to bed, but yet again we mess up and drop points.

Emery once again proves why he's not good enough, these kind of performances are happening week in week out and to be honest, sicne he arrived he's been very poor, last season his team couldn't perform in the 1st half for months and we never ahead at half time for ages, then there's was the calamitous collapse at the end of last season.

Then onto this season which in the league has been a disaster, poor performance after poor performance and dropped points left right and centre, he can't go soon enough IMO, the longer he staysthe worse it's going to get, would rather give someone else a chance to build something rather than waste time on him, he's not up to it and he proves it every single week.

Tell me how emery is supposed to fix var


Shouldn't need to, if he got his tactics right, drilled and trained his team effectively and motivated the players he'd win despite VAR, that's what decent managers do.

We're dropping points all the time now, it's not VARs' fault we can't beat teams and our defence is as watertight as a sieve and our midfield lacks any creativity.

His team was good enough to win today and we would have.

But VAR makes it worst call ever.

No changing that fact. Football isn't played on paper. Best teams don't always win. Sometimes we need luck. Liverpool got a phantom goal v Sheffield Utd and won that in a match they were outplayed in. We haven't got any


That's the point, they weren't good enough, they were 2-0 up after 10 minutes and still shipped two goals to let their opponents back in, at the end of the day we were the home team and regardless of C Palaces away form we should be winning and winning comfortably and given our performances recently we were own a decent one because we haven't played well in the league all season or indeed since the before the bad run at the end of last season.

I agree the VAR decision was bad, but the truth is we didn't create much, our defence was dodgy once again and Emery made the wrong subs, Martinelli should have been on instead of Saka, given ur lack of creativity, he seems to link up midfield and attack better, is good at heading and seems to be a goal threat, on top of that he's performed really well when he's played so there was no excuse, on top of that Xhaka should have never been playing, he isn't a DM and we have Torreira who is and should be playing there, if anything Xhaka was the one who failed to block the cross for the goal because he was a yard too slow (isn't he always).

All in all another abject performance from the team of a manager who doesn't really appear to know what he's doing (a familiar story at Arsenal these days it seems).
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Re: 27/10/19 | Arsenal vs Crystal Palace | Premier League

Postby Salibatelli » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:14 am

Nuggets wrote:
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Nuggets wrote:No mention of being robbed of a goal in the BBC write up of the game, just how good palace were. Wank*rs



I refer you to the ‘are the media against us’ thread where some people actually said no....


They must be blind and deaf then, clearly the media are negative towards us.


It was a bad decision, but in the end we paid the price for being poor, we had the game pretty much won at 2-0, it's noone elses fault but our own we didn't win in the end, we should have won this 3 or 4 nil given our start, but as always we blow it.

I don't think we should focus on that decision, I think we should focus on why we failed to again when we were in control. Seems to me we only seem to be able to turn up for 45 minutes with Emery, that's if we turn up at all and it's been the case throughout his career with us, for the first 6 months we hadn't gone in ahead at half time in any game.
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Re: 27/10/19 | Arsenal 2-2 Crystal Palace | Premier League

Postby Zenith » Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:56 am

Which player can hold his head up high after our draw against Palace?

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Re: 27/10/19 | Arsenal 2-2 Crystal Palace | Premier League

Postby Dejan » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:02 am

Sokratis

The man scored twice
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Re: 27/10/19 | Arsenal 2-2 Crystal Palace | Premier League

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:06 am

Jarred Gillett was the VAR official for Arsenal's clash with Palace. A 32-year-old Australian, Gillett has never taken charge of a Premier League game, with his refereeing experience in England limited to nine Football League fixtures.


Mr Gillett needs to be investigated by the PL.
If they don;t, I hope Arsenal invest in a private investigation.
He was appointed to PGMOL's Select Group 2 by Mike Riley.
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Re: 27/10/19 | Arsenal 2-2 Crystal Palace | Premier League

Postby Fenice » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:16 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
Jarred Gillett was the VAR official for Arsenal's clash with Palace. A 32-year-old Australian, Gillett has never taken charge of a Premier League game, with his refereeing experience in England limited to nine Football League fixtures.


Mr Gillett needs to be investigated by the PL.
If they don;t, I hope Arsenal invest in a private investigation.
He was appointed to PGMOL's Select Group 2 by Mike Riley.


What kind of actual garbage is that? How does he possibly have the experience to make the call he did?
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Re: 27/10/19 | Arsenal 2-2 Crystal Palace | Premier League

Postby Phil71 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:35 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
Jarred Gillett was the VAR official for Arsenal's clash with Palace. A 32-year-old Australian, Gillett has never taken charge of a Premier League game, with his refereeing experience in England limited to nine Football League fixtures.


Mr Gillett needs to be investigated by the PL.
If they don;t, I hope Arsenal invest in a private investigation.
He was appointed to PGMOL's Select Group 2 by Mike Riley.


What a joke.

The amount of money this whole VAR thing is costing and they put amateurs in.

What would have avoided this though is if the ref had gone and looked at the pitch side screen.
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Re: 27/10/19 | Arsenal 2-2 Crystal Palace | Premier League

Postby arsenal25 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:52 am

Piece on bbc football web-site says late Sokratis goal should have been allowed, one of four VAR decisions now considered wrong.
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Re: 27/10/19 | Arsenal 2-2 Crystal Palace | Premier League

Postby Ach » Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:51 am

It's the worst var call of all time in any country since var was introduced.
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