24/08/19 | Liverpool 3-1 Arsenal | Premier League

[Rockape]

I personally like Emery he was handed a poison challis (devided fan base) over hyped squad and a board room and back staff in turmoil.
He has removed the deadwood the club has been able to.and continues to work removing what has been identified to be not needed.
He has taken us to a EL final although I believe making that final and having his eyes firmly on that silverware cost us top 4 and a CL slot
He has obviously been involved in identifying players for the transfers as any manager would and we know we have been told there are more to come (hopefully bolstering our defence)
He is 3 games into the season we had our best start in a decade then had a god awful day at the office against a very good team.
This week I feel we will get a better idea of how we are tracking against another good team
COYG dont lose faith it is only early days

Good post.

+ 1. Getting very bored with our resident sourpuss mod!

[StLGooner]

Wrong tactical set up. Too defensive, too narrow. Ceballos in the wrong position. We're playing Xhaka, no Torreira, no Laca......changes needed at half time because we haven't been the protagonists. Conceding possession to Liverpool like that could only end up one way. Really tired of seeing Emery tinker with the formation when he doesn't have to.

This all day long.

It's obvious to everyone on earth except the person that can change it. Frustrating isn't it.

[Arsenal Tone]

On reflection, the tactics worked for 40 mins. Had we taken one of the chances in that period then who knows. As soon as we conceded the plan was doomed. At that point we should have brought on Laca for one of the midfielders and changed to a more attacking tactic.

[Power n Glory]

Wrong tactical set up. Too defensive, too narrow. Ceballos in the wrong position. We're playing Xhaka, no Torreira, no Laca......changes needed at half time because we haven't been the protagonists. Conceding possession to Liverpool like that could only end up one way. Really tired of seeing Emery tinker with the formation when he doesn't have to.

This all day long.

It's obvious to everyone on earth except the person that can change it. Frustrating isn't it.

Really frustrating.

[Power n Glory]

On reflection, the tactics worked for 40 mins. Had we taken one of the chances in that period then who knows. As soon as we conceded the plan was doomed. At that point we should have brought on Laca for one of the midfielders and changed to a more attacking tactic.

Trying to to hit an attacking team like Liverpool on the break is what most teams would try to do. The idea isn't flawed or anything revolutionary. Basic counter attacking football. The problem was the execution and set up.

Liverpool could have scored within the opening minutes when Robertson unleashed that cross and all it needed was a touch from Firmino and that could have changed the game. They also had a few other moments that could have opened us up earlier. Mane had a good chance when we tried to play out from the back and Celballos gifted him the ball.

The formation and team selection have already been mentioned but we were also trying to pass the ball out from the back like we usually do. We couldn't get out of our own half because Liverpool penned us in and marked in numbers. We didn't try to play the ball long despite having pace up front along with Xhaka and Luiz who are great at long balls. We didn't have anyone that could hold the ball up when in attacking areas. Pepe was the only effective player, everyone else had pretty poor game. Individual brilliance rather than a tactical masterstroke where the manager gets the best out of everyone because they know they're job. It didn't look like any of them really knew how to play this system.

[StLGooner]

On reflection, the tactics worked for 40 mins. Had we taken one of the chances in that period then who knows. As soon as we conceded the plan was doomed. At that point we should have brought on Laca for one of the midfielders and changed to a more attacking tactic.

Trying to to hit an attacking team like Liverpool on the break is what most teams would try to do. The idea isn't flawed or anything revolutionary. Basic counter attacking football. The problem was the execution and set up.

Liverpool could have scored within the opening minutes when Robertson unleashed that cross and all it needed was a touch from Firmino and that could have changed the game. They also had a few other moments that could have opened us up earlier. Mane had a good chance when we tried to play out from the back and Celballos gifted him the ball.

The formation and team selection have already been mentioned but we were also trying to pass the ball out from the back like we usually do. We couldn't get out of our own half because Liverpool penned us in and marked in numbers. We didn't try to play the ball long despite having pace up front along with Xhaka and Luiz who are great at long balls. We didn't have anyone that could hold the ball up when in attacking areas. Pepe was the only effective player, everyone else had pretty poor game. Individual brilliance rather than a tactical masterstroke where the manager gets the best out of everyone because they know they're job. It didn't look like any of them really knew how to play this system.

What is more worrying to me about that last sentence is that it didn't look like any of them WANT to play this system either.

I'm still shocked by Ceballos. He has an absolute class game the previous week controlling the midfield and then Emery plays him on the wing the next game. It's like he tries to overthink everything and be some kind of master tactician that is going to enlighten the footballing world.

[Power n Glory]

On reflection, the tactics worked for 40 mins. Had we taken one of the chances in that period then who knows. As soon as we conceded the plan was doomed. At that point we should have brought on Laca for one of the midfielders and changed to a more attacking tactic.

Trying to to hit an attacking team like Liverpool on the break is what most teams would try to do. The idea isn't flawed or anything revolutionary. Basic counter attacking football. The problem was the execution and set up.

Liverpool could have scored within the opening minutes when Robertson unleashed that cross and all it needed was a touch from Firmino and that could have changed the game. They also had a few other moments that could have opened us up earlier. Mane had a good chance when we tried to play out from the back and Celballos gifted him the ball.

The formation and team selection have already been mentioned but we were also trying to pass the ball out from the back like we usually do. We couldn't get out of our own half because Liverpool penned us in and marked in numbers. We didn't try to play the ball long despite having pace up front along with Xhaka and Luiz who are great at long balls. We didn't have anyone that could hold the ball up when in attacking areas. Pepe was the only effective player, everyone else had pretty poor game. Individual brilliance rather than a tactical masterstroke where the manager gets the best out of everyone because they know they're job. It didn't look like any of them really knew how to play this system.

What is more worrying to me about that last sentence is that it didn't look like any of them WANT to play this system either.

I'm still shocked by Ceballos. He has an absolute class game the previous week controlling the midfield and then Emery plays him on the wing the next game. It's like he tries to overthink everything and be some kind of master tactician that is going to enlighten the footballing world.

The Celballos move really annoyed me. I hope it's not a reoccurring theme for this season. First time in ages I've seen us control the midfield like that in ages to only decide to play him in a position where he's least effective. Emery has to see the difference between him and Xhaka, surely?

[Power n Glory]

https://arseblog.com/2019/08/tactics-co ... ols-hands/

A really good piece from Arseblog on the tactical set up from game.

[starmandb]

This type of a game plan is insulting. We're not Stoke ffs.

We've finished 6th for the last 2 seasons and we are playing the European champions away.

Some perspective pls

We were 5 th last season mate
Man Utd were 6th they lost 3-1 at Liverpool
Bayern Munich lost 3-1 home to Liverpool
Barcelona lost 4-0 at anfield
perspective and the Internet are total strangers

[starmandb]

Barcelona has conceded four goals at Anfield in last seasons CL. If Emery really thought that he could get away with a point by playing defensive side with likes Xhaka and Willock then he is more delusional than i ever imagined.

No doubt that we could have better chance if he setup a proper attacking team.

This emery blame is crazy you want to go toe to toe vs this team? He won't be here if we don't achieve top 4. This time allegri is available he sets up just as defensively as him.

We are not worse than Liverpool player by player comprasion.

Loool

looool at you.

They have just a better manager who is not scared to face anyone with his marquee tactic gegenpressing. While we are not even sure what Emery is trying to play on his second season.

This was game 61 for emery
Game 87 for klopp was a 3-1 defeat at Leicester who were in the bottom 3
That was their 5th defeat in 7 that saw them knocked out of both domestic cup competitions
At home the fa cup defeat was to wolves who finished 15th in the championship that season
Plus a2-0 defeat at hull who were relegated that season

[starmandb]

so... Starmand? when was the last time an AFC keeper stopped a pen?

11 th march 2018
Petr cech saved a Troy deeney penalty in a 3-0 home win v Watford when it was 2-0

[starmandb]

Auba is useless when he has to do a lot of work between getting the ball and shooting. He needs creators behind him to set him free.

Don't worry, we have Ramsey and Ozil ready. Oh, wait.

Is that the ramsey who we lost 5-1 up there with last year?
Or that lost 4-0 up there the season before?
Or lost 2-0 at home to Liverpool with in 11/12?

[starmandb]

This is a fireable offense from the Spanish c***.

Yeah because we should never be losing to a sh*t team like Liverpool, the CL champions, i.e the better team.

Oh no.

It’s very rare to see other teams getting spanked so hard so consistently as we do

Real Madrid
18/19
Sevilla(a) l 3-0
Barcelona (a) l 5-1
Eibar (a) l 3-0
Cska Moscow (h) l 3-0
Barcelona ( h) l 3-0
Ajax(a) l 4-1
Real sociadad (a) l3-1

Chelsea
18/19
Spurs ( a) l 3-1
Bournemouth (a) l 4-0
Man city(a) l 6-0
19/20
Man Utd (a) l 4-0


Atletico Madrid
18/19
Dortmond (a) l 4- 0
Real madrid( h) l 3-1
Juventus(a) l 3-0
Espanyol ( a) l 3-0

Man Utd
18/19
Spurs( h) l 3-0
West Ham (a) l 3-1
Man city (a) l 3-1
Liverpool (a) l 3-1
Barcelona(a) l 3-0
Everton (a) l 4-0