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Postby gooney » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:30 pm

Clear pen and fair result imo. We rode our luck against them in the previous game.
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Postby Luzh 22 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:30 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:Well ............ imo, that was a handball so don't know why we're deflecting.

His arm was out front and he blocked the ball with his forearm, how is that not a hand ball?



Think it stems from the "too little time to do anything about it" and "arm in natural position" thing.

It's pretty pants that it's a very grey area, where it basically comes down to ref's opinion on the matter. An opinion made in a split second, without the benefit of a replay, with all the technology on hand.

People often say this kind of thing is what makes football so special. I disagree. Football should be about the 22 men on the pitch. It should never be about the 23rd man on the pitch.


Like TA said, bottom of the table team shouldn't be giving us problems. We are shit, and all our performances scream it.
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Re: 31/12/17 | West Bromwich Albion vs Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:31 pm

gooney wrote:Clear pen and fair result imo. We rode our luck against them in the previous game.

Here comes Mike Dean.
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Postby Doctor » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:31 pm

Lolzil wrote:
GoonerAlexandre wrote:
Lolzil wrote:Not sure how anyone can say it isnt hand ball looking at that replay hes controlled it with his arm. Chambers cost the 3 points.

If it didn't hit his arm, it would have hit his body. That's how much of a natural position his arm is.



Im just as pissed off but you can see his arm move and then controls the ball. Can see why its given if it happens at other end we would be screaming for a pen.


No. He was three yards away. Normally refs ignore even fully extended arms from this distance unless it was heading directly for goal.
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Re: 31/12/17 | West Bromwich Albion vs Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby DiamondGooner » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:31 pm

Zedie wrote:
Losmeister wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:Well ............ imo, that was a handball so don't know why we're deflecting.

His arm was out front and he blocked the ball with his forearm, how is that not a hand ball?

he's always haviing his arm within the frame of his abdomen/trunk...


Yeah, he should have stretched his arms out as wide as possible to avoid the ball hitting him on them :dizzy:

Honestly how can anyone think this is a handball ffs.


The referee.

Regardless, maybe we shouldn't be just scrapping by bottom of the league teams then we wouldn't have this problem.

Our football from open play was fkin shocking today, all we do is rely on Ozil and Sanchez to win us games, we're a two man team and both of them are going.

Wenger should of been sacked last year but only at Arsenal do we reward failure.
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Postby jayramfootball » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:31 pm

Lolzil wrote:Please tell me how it is natural to control the ball with your arm by making a movement TO THE BALL rather than chest it away???


It wasn't a pen, but like the majority of Wenger players, Chambers was too stupid to know that Mike Dean was the ref and to have had his arms down. He handed Dean his chance and he gleefully took it. Brainless Arsenal players are very common under Wenger.
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Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:31 pm

Tbf his arm moved out, very harsh though, need video replays
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Re: 31/12/17 | West Bromwich Albion vs Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby Gooner_LK6 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:32 pm

Typical arsenal
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Postby jayramfootball » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:32 pm

gooney wrote:Clear pen and fair result imo. We rode our luck against them in the previous game.


I don't think it was a fair result. I thought WBA deserved to win.
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Re: 31/12/17 | West Bromwich Albion vs Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:33 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
Zedie wrote:
Losmeister wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:Well ............ imo, that was a handball so don't know why we're deflecting.

His arm was out front and he blocked the ball with his forearm, how is that not a hand ball?

he's always haviing his arm within the frame of his abdomen/trunk...


Yeah, he should have stretched his arms out as wide as possible to avoid the ball hitting him on them :dizzy:

Honestly how can anyone think this is a handball ffs.


The referee.

Regardless, maybe we shouldn't be just scrapping by bottom of the league teams then we wouldn't have this problem.

Our football from open play was fkin shocking today, all we do is rely on Ozil and Sanchez to win us games, we're a two man team and both of them are going.

Wenger should of been sacked last year but only at Arsenal do we reward failure.

Still doesn't mean Mike Dean wasn't directly to blame. It has to be deliberate hand ball. If that's a penalty, we should have had 20
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Re: 31/12/17 | West Bromwich Albion vs Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby Krigaren » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:33 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
Zedie wrote:
Losmeister wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:Well ............ imo, that was a handball so don't know why we're deflecting.

His arm was out front and he blocked the ball with his forearm, how is that not a hand ball?

he's always haviing his arm within the frame of his abdomen/trunk...


Yeah, he should have stretched his arms out as wide as possible to avoid the ball hitting him on them :dizzy:

Honestly how can anyone think this is a handball ffs.


The referee.

Regardless, maybe we shouldn't be just scrapping by bottom of the league teams then we wouldn't have this problem.

Our football from open play was fkin shocking today, all we do is rely on Ozil and Sanchez to win us games, we're a two man team and both of them are going.

Wenger should of been sacked last year but only at Arsenal do we reward failure.

Yes our play is shit. Yes its shit that wenger got an extenssion. Ur shite for wanting us to lose to. Dont help bro. f**k off and suck Mike Dean.
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Re: 31/12/17 | West Bromwich Albion vs Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby Losmeister » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:34 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
immsun wrote:
indy23 wrote:So possibly consecutive out of top 4 finishes. Seriously I'm not even surprised that we drew. I just want to know how many shots Wenger going to get. The product on the pitch is awful 75 minutes of the 90. With spurts of good football.

Sorry but

You Idiot. Fuk off. That was 3 Points in the bag if ref didn't fuk us. No need to criticize always. Support the team once you flat head.

Idiotic fans like this are a f***ing disgrace to the club. Always moaning idiots.


It was a crap performance from an uncommitted team led by a useless manager. The only idiotic fans are the ones who put up with this rubbish week in week out.


put up with? what the absolute fk does that mean?

we all get frustrated. you sound like an uncomittted? what are YOU doing? not paying attention not watching? sintead you troll fans who are rightfully pisssed off at the ref.

and he give cech a yellow too, khunt
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Re: 31/12/17 | West Bromwich Albion vs Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby gamechannel » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:34 pm

I am so done with Wenger, Gazadis, the moustached yankee t**t and his son.

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Postby BexleyGooner » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:36 pm

Cech wants to smack him in the mouth lol
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Postby theHotHead » Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:37 pm

Boys, in real time and certain camera angles it looks like the worst decision in the world. However, from the view Mike Dean had and in slow motion it actually looks like Chambers raises his arm, so you can see why it was given. But harsh !!!
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