The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

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Who will win the 2018 World Cup?

Poll ended at Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:58 pm

Argentina
3
18%
Belgium
1
6%
Brazil
1
6%
England
2
12%
France
2
12%
Germany
4
24%
Portugal
1
6%
Russia
0
No votes
Spain
2
12%
Other
1
6%
 
Total votes : 17

Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Angelito » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:52 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:
Angelito wrote:It wasn't a one on one. It was a clear chance.

The microscopic inspection that Messi goes through pretty much says it all. :D


It's almost as if someone regarded as the GOAT by many will be held to higher standards, especially when said miss came in the WC Final and you're trying to blame all the failures of Argentina on everyone but Messi.


Yes.

Because Argentina are a big footballing nation destroyed by corruption and incompetence. And it's only in this Messi era that we have been achieving at the international stage since Batistuta's lot won the Copa in 1993.

No individual can single-handedly win the World Cup. It's about cohesion and team spirit. That is how Spain won it in 2010 by scoring lesser goals in the entire tournament than Russia have in this World Cup so far.

Argentina don't have the set up of Germany, the cohesive unit of Spain, the unity and administration of Brazil, or the sheer talent of France. It's an eye-opener that Argentina wouldn't have even qualified in the World Cup if Messi hadn't scored a hat-trick in a must-win game.

I don't blame Messi because I understand the situation at Argentina and know the deficiencies on and off the field. Argentina without Messi is a disaster waiting to happen UNLESS the AFA can get rid of its toxic culture. And that's not happening anytime soon. The dearth of talent coming through the ranks is obvious. There's never been a shortage of young players as there is right now.

Pekerman's Argentina is the last time Argentina were a legitimate world power in football. That was the last time Argentina played free-flowing attacking football. Today, we still dominate games but that's simply because the opponent wants to squander possession so that four players could mark Messi.

Before Aguero scored his first World Cup goal ever against Iceland, only one player had scored a goal for Argentina in a competitive game since Oct 2016. Yes, Leo Messi.

It's deep. It's complex.

I will blame everyone but Messi because that is the truth. No other player in any country in the world pays the training staff of their national team from his pocket. That's just one of the issues.

Some of us are just grateful that he plays for Argentina.

And as much as it hurts, I'd rather Messi had played for Spain and won 3 WCs in a row than suffer playing for an association that does not deserve him.
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Ach » Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:00 pm

Seems to me like the problem is Messi. He is their best player and thus they all turn to him. If he wasn't there, maybe theyd play as a team more.

Reminds me of the pundits talking about Sweden and Zlatan today. For too long they turned to Zlatan and did f all. Hes out and they are in the QFs
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Losmeister » Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:05 pm

Va Va is conflating Iggy's horrible one on one v. Germany with Messi?
( I recall one he dragged a ball width wide of the right. One he often makes)
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Losmeister » Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:06 pm

riiight and Potugals problem is Cr7!!!

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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Losmeister » Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:07 pm

neither one can carry their team. its quite simple.
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Marsbar100 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:42 am

France and urugauy played four days ago they should be playing today ffs
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Angelito » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:08 am




Marsbar100 wrote:France and urugauy played four days ago they should be playing today ffs


Shut up!

As if playing Colombia, Sweden, and one of Croatia/Russia in the SFs en route to the final of a f'kin World Cup isn't easy enough... Ffs.
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Ach » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:37 pm

Marsbar100 wrote:France and urugauy played four days ago they should be playing today ffs

This.

No need for a 2 day gap ffs. Bored as f**k
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Angelito » Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:27 am

Just realized that France doesn't have a single Arsenal player in its squad. Must be a first since Wenger joined Arsenal.

If France do win the WC, I'd be gutted for Koscielny. :( He deserved to be there.

The only Gunner left in the WC is Welbeck. :rolleyes:

2002 - Soon-to-be-Gunner, Gilberto in the WC Final
2006 - Henry in the WC Final
2010 - van Persie, Cesc in the WC Final
2014 - Ozil, Per, Pod in the WC Final
2018 - Save us, Lucas Torreira?
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Rockape » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:03 pm

Angelito wrote:Just realized that France doesn't have a single Arsenal player in its squad. Must be a first since Wenger joined Arsenal.

If France do win the WC, I'd be gutted for Koscielny. :( He deserved to be there.

The only Gunner left in the WC is Welbeck. :rolleyes:

2002 - Soon-to-be-Gunner, Gilberto in the WC Final
2006 - Henry in the WC Final
2010 - van Persie, Cesc in the WC Final
2014 - Ozil, Per, Pod in the WC Final
2018 - Save us, Lucas Torreira?


Doesn't that tell us everything we've known for years! Appalling decline.
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Ach » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:04 pm

Imagine if England win it and welbeck is a World Cup winner. I guess the answer to the who is the worst player ever to win the World Cup question will finally be answered.

We all Sweden fans?
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Ach » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:10 pm

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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Losmeister » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:44 pm

as i suspected.. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wo ... ccer:index

and all you ol timers sayn VAR stinks cos it interrupts the flow of the game .... the extyra time is so wildly off the stoppages already created bt these pussies roilling about on the floor and crowding and touching the ref.
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Royal Gooner » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:44 pm

Ach wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44722812

Lool


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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby matelot » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:57 pm

As an English fan I was a bit disappointed with our performance against Colombia. Maradonna was correct despite the biased commentary on the game,the ref was bent towards us and nine times out of ten we would be out..
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