15/02/2017 | Bayern Munich 5-1 Arsenal | UCL

[ThisIsNotAnID]

[Big Poppa]

Keown just said;

"Lewondowski beat off Mustafi. I would not have allowed that if I was on the pitch".

Keown played in a team with a lot more defensively astute full backs and a midfield with the likes of Vieira, Petit and Gilberto ahead of him. Had he played in this current team, Lewa would eat him up. He was good but as part of that unit from 1998 - 2002, and on the few occasions in the CL when he came up against WC forwards like Diego Tristan and Gabriel Batistuta, he got merked.

I'm sorry but it just annoys me when former players big themselves up in the immediate aftermath of games.

[Alexis]

ox

[coach8smallball]

wenger out, bottom line

[Sims]

Keown just said;

"Lewondowski beat off Mustafi. I would not have allowed that if I was on the pitch".

Keown played in a team with a lot more defensively astute full backs and a midfield with the likes of Vieira, Petit and Gilberto ahead of him. Had he played in this current team, Lewa would eat him up. He was good but as part of that unit from 1998 - 2002, and on the few occasions in the CL when he came up against WC forwards like Diego Tristan and Gabriel Batistuta, he got merked.

I'm sorry but it just annoys me when former players big themselves up in the immediate aftermath of games.

looooooooooool rip

[Santi]

0 defensive awareness whatsoever in this team, just a collection of individuals who fluke it from time to time.


basic stuff not being done all over the show.

[Santi]

ox

paul hayward is wrong and a muppet though, best thing ox did all game from the looks of it, at least he applauded our fans unlike the rest of em.

[Bayernfan]

Keown just said;

"Lewondowski beat off Mustafi. I would not have allowed that if I was on the pitch".

Keown played in a team with a lot more defensively astute full backs and a midfield with the likes of Vieira, Petit and Gilberto ahead of him. Had he played in this current team, Lewa would eat him up. He was good but as part of that unit from 1998 - 2002, and on the few occasions in the CL when he came up against WC forwards like Diego Tristan and Gabriel Batistuta, he got merked.

I'm sorry but it just annoys me when former players big themselves up in the immediate aftermath of games.

What do you think of Petit saying on French TV he would love to play with HIS Arsenal against he current Arsenal and show them what's difference between men and kids ?

He also said they are more talented than him and his generation but aren't warrior. I think they aren't more talented at all but if he believe this ..

[Big Poppa]

cba to find any highlights btw but did robben score the opener with his left foot?


i mean I dunno who let him on it but if there's one obvious thing that would be the first thing I'd do against Robben is show him ONTO HIS RIGHT f***ing FOOT. Please tell me it was just a right footed wonder strike and not yet another piece of retarded defending from our lot, i heard the strike was good but that doesn't excuse it if he's cut inside from the right.

Yh look at that absolutely disgraceful defending from Coquelin, would sell him just for that tbh. Schoolboy stuff.

Passive defending all round. There are about 3 or 4 errors in that goal. When the ball goes out to Douglas Costa, Iwobi goes to close him down. Coquelin is there spare man but he's too deep. It then goes out to Robben and Ozil is standing 5 yards away watching. Coquelin tentatively comes out, and steps to his left slightly because Costa makes a run behind him. He needn't do so because Gibbs is there. This allows Robben the space he needs to get the angle for the shot.

Bayern also brilliantly exploited our indecisive pressing game. Honestly we've played similarly in many premier league games but not faced a team as good at punishing as for it in a while (and when we do, that's exactly what they do). As someone pointed out, we regularly rotate player positions and create makeshift roles because Wenger likes fluidity and versatility. This is good when you have the ball but a terrible idea when you don't. We don't have enough players who live for defending. Everyone does it because they are told to. The ones we do have at the back who are competent are good individually but lack the gravitas to lead and organise.

[CrimsonGunner11]

Honestly didn't know Costa was playing

0 defensive awareness whatsoever in this team, just a collection of individuals who fluke it from time to time.


basic stuff not being done all over the show.

100% this

[Big Poppa]

Keown just said;

"Lewondowski beat off Mustafi. I would not have allowed that if I was on the pitch".

Keown played in a team with a lot more defensively astute full backs and a midfield with the likes of Vieira, Petit and Gilberto ahead of him. Had he played in this current team, Lewa would eat him up. He was good but as part of that unit from 1998 - 2002, and on the few occasions in the CL when he came up against WC forwards like Diego Tristan and Gabriel Batistuta, he got merked.

I'm sorry but it just annoys me when former players big themselves up in the immediate aftermath of games.

What do you think of Petit saying on French TV he would love to play with HIS Arsenal against he current Arsenal and show them what's difference between men and kids ?

He also said they are more talented than him and his generation but aren't warrior. I think they aren't more talented at all but if he believe this ..

Good question. I haven't heard Petit's full remarks but I agree with the basis of what he's saying. I think his team would know how to exploit the weaknesses of this team.

When he speaks of talent, he probably means technical ability of the players throughout the squad. He played in a squad with the likes of Luzhny, Wreh, Vivas, Stepanovs, Upson, Volz, Suker, Pennant, Stephen Hughes. If we had the injury problems we have today we'd have been in deep trouble, but luckily the likes of Anelka, Overmars, Bergkamp, Dixon, Adams, Winterburn/Cole, Kanu, Parlour, Silvinho never ever seemed to get injured.

The first XI that Petit played in was far more talented and contained players who were specialists in their positions, rather than these hybrids of today, but the subs bench wasn't great. Wenger didn't need to organise that team in from 98 - 2002 because they organised themselves. The current team need someone like Simeone or Conte to discipline them on the touchline. Wenger is a non-interventionist and believes players can rectify their own mistakes so he keeps giving them chances to learn.

He remains an excellent mentor but a questionable task master.

[EliteKiller]

cba to find any highlights btw but did robben score the opener with his left foot?

The worst and I mean the worst thing about this goal is that it shows up either - complete lack of coaching or complete lack of ability or indeed both ....

Robben cutting in from the right to curl a left footed shot into the top corner ... he's done this a dozen times it's his signature move, a feckin' 12 year old could tell you that - basics don't let him do it ...

so - did the Arsenal management and coaches not brief the players ? do they even watch pre game videos? do they have a defensive plan?

or - are our defenders so crap they can't remember instructions, they can't spot a player, they can't step to the right blocking his run and forcing him back where we have cover? or put another way basically they can't defend ....

this 10 seconds explains why we are a million miles away from being a winning club .... when you can't contain a known threat by using even basic defending ... then your truly fecked ....

Robben didn't even have to try that hard, quality finish but under no pressure he can do that all day long ...

[CrimsonGunner11]

cba to find any highlights btw but did robben score the opener with his left foot?

The worst and I mean the worst thing about this goal is that it shows up either - complete lack of coaching or complete lack of ability or indeed both ....

Robben cutting in from the right to curl a left footed shot into the top corner ... he's done this a dozen times it's his signature move, a feckin' 12 year old could tell you that - basics don't let him do it ...

so - did the Arsenal management and coaches not brief the players ? do they even watch pre game videos? do they have a defensive plan?

or - are our defenders so crap they can't remember instructions, they can't spot a player, they can't step to the right blocking his run and forcing him back where we have cover? or put another way basically they can't defend ....

this 10 seconds explains why we are a million miles away from being a winning club .... when you can't contain a known threat by using even basic defending ... then your truly fecked ....

Robben didn't even have to try that hard, quality finish but under no pressure he can do that all day long ...

Both but I'd put a lot of the poor defending today down to the players. Again using Thiago's first goal as an example. You don't need a coach to tell you to watch the player running in on goal. How no one picked him up until it was too late is beyond me

[Slick]

I guess it's good I got busy at work and missed this match.

[Angelito]

Hey Bayernfan, I think the Carlo factor might be kicking in now. Carlo's teams usually develop momentum during this time of the season and finish strongly.