19/11/2016 | Manchester United 1-1 Arsenal | Premier League

Re: 19/11/2016 | Manchester United 1-1 Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby Angelito » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:13 am

ThisIsNotAnID wrote:Leicester were an exception, a fluke.

Our shit performances have caught up to us. My worry is that Wenger will allow the team to limp forward and will only make changes when it becomes impossible for us to win the league or our CL qualification comes under threat.


Winning the League over a course of 38 games cannot be a fluke. For those 38 games, they were better than every team in the country. This isn't a cup competition.

Agree with your 2nd part though. We usually start playing lovely football, with the right players in right positions after we've lost the League, or the fight for fourth starts getting serious.
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Re: 19/11/2016 | Manchester United 1-1 Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby Nuggets » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:58 pm

They were there for the taking and we yet again bottled it.
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Re: 19/11/2016 | Manchester United 1-1 Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby DiamondGooner » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:09 pm

Angelito wrote:
ThisIsNotAnID wrote:Leicester were an exception, a fluke.

Our shit performances have caught up to us. My worry is that Wenger will allow the team to limp forward and will only make changes when it becomes impossible for us to win the league or our CL qualification comes under threat.


Winning the League over a course of 38 games cannot be a fluke. For those 38 games, they were better than every team in the country. This isn't a cup competition.

Agree with your 2nd part though. We usually start playing lovely football, with the right players in right positions after we've lost the League, or the fight for fourth starts getting serious.


Agreed.

You can win a game through being "lucky" but you don't win a whole season through fluke, it was hard work, desire and discipline.

Leicester's achievement should never be disregarded as just a fluke.
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Re: 19/11/2016 | Manchester United 1-1 Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:04 pm

Angelito wrote:
ThisIsNotAnID wrote:Leicester were an exception, a fluke.

Our shit performances have caught up to us. My worry is that Wenger will allow the team to limp forward and will only make changes when it becomes impossible for us to win the league or our CL qualification comes under threat.


Winning the League over a course of 38 games cannot be a fluke. For those 38 games, they were better than every team in the country. This isn't a cup competition.

Agree with your 2nd part though. We usually start playing lovely football, with the right players in right positions after we've lost the League, or the fight for fourth starts getting serious.



Instead of reading the table like this:

4. Arsenal
5. Sp*rs
6. Manchester United
7. Everton

Wenger and the players should be reading the table like this:

4. Sp*rs
5. Manchester United
6. Everton
7. Arsenal

Maybe, then, our approach to games will be better.
Leno
(Runarsson/Macey)
Bellerin Saliba Gabriel Tierney
(Cedric/Niles) (Holding/Mustafi) (Mari/Sokratis) (Kolasinac/Bola)
Xhaka
(Elneny/Luiz)
Partey —- Ceballos
(Torreira/Matteo) --- (Ozil/Willock)
Pepe -------------------- Auba(c)
(Willian/ESR) -------------------- (Saka/Nelson)
Lacazette
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Re: 19/11/2016 | Manchester United 1-1 Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby ThisIsNotAnID » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:08 pm

Of course you can fluke a season. Yes they did get the results but when you start to break down their performances you start seeing the flaws. For one they were not exceptional in attack, not even making the top 5 in the league for chances created or shots taken and yet they scored the the third highest amount of goals in the league. This was due to a very high conversion rate which they've not been able to sustain this season. They also had the second to worst passing success rate in the league. Even their defense which people gave them credit for wasn't all that. They conceded the 9th highest shots (more than Aston Villa) but teams just couldn't score against them. I mean common, you look at where they are in the table now and its evident. Their performances have caught up with them.
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Re: 19/11/2016 | Manchester United 1-1 Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby Losmeister » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:52 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:Well good old Arsenal is back.

This was a damaged Man Utd, not even a Man U in top form and we scrapped a last minute draw.

This will be another season of what could of been if we had bought a top striker.


you kill your own argument


since Ibrfa is sposed to be that and they got a draw at home vs AFC playing their worst
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Re: 19/11/2016 | Manchester United 1-1 Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby Losmeister » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:02 pm

we have been the luckiest team?? wtf is that about?
lets see....... Santi and Lucas injured cos they get kicked from behind blatantly by troglodytes...

6-7 w/o a win. i'll take 50 quid worth of that action if you care to put your money where your pie hole is.
please advise.
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Re: 19/11/2016 | Manchester United 1-1 Arsenal | Premier Lea

Postby yadunoe » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:52 pm

Without cazorla our football is so subpar he makes us tick and makes the right passes he's the only player we have in the centre that can take the ball on the half turn and pass it into ozil quickly El neny and Lecoq took way to long to pass the ball into ozil. Ramsey should never play in the wings the ox and Walcott need to start. Iwobi has been poor so ox should start have pace on both sides of Giroud. We are mentally a stronger team then years gone by and a bigger squad we have played horrible since cazorla got injured last year and this he's our most important player esp considering how we play
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