24/11/2015 | Arsenal 3-0 Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby BouncySean » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:18 pm

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Bellerin---Kos------Gabriel--------Monreal
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Ramsey------------Ozil-------------------Alexis
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I'm fully expecting Wenger to play Ospina though...
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby Santi » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:19 pm

jules_w wrote:
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Angelito wrote:Why would you guys want to risk Ramsey here? We need him much more in the Prem.

League is gone. 2 wins in the cl and we are through as long as olympiakos don't best bayern


2 wins is not enough , we need to win in Olympiakos by at least 2 or more goals difference.



or 4-3, 5-4, 6-5,7-6 etc.
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby Dubs4Sam » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:27 pm

Mesüt wrote:
jules_w wrote:
Cripps wrote:
Angelito wrote:Why would you guys want to risk Ramsey here? We need him much more in the Prem.

League is gone. 2 wins in the cl and we are through as long as olympiakos don't best bayern


2 wins is not enough , we need to win in Olympiakos by at least 2 or more goals difference.



or 4-3, 5-4, 6-5,7-6 etc.



We shouldn't risk him for C/L or Europa and now that we are out of the race for the EPL - we must keep him out of harms way until the 3rd Round of the FA Cup. :panic:
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby elkanofan » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:28 pm

Agree about not risking ramsey

In all honesty i would rather we played a secound team and just focused on getting everyone fit for league games.
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby Santi » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:15 pm

as long as he just plays JEFF im happy
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby Arsene Nose » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:23 pm

Best eventuality is to get knocked out of the Champions League without qualifying for the Europa League. What do we have to do to make that happen? I think it's the draw scenario right?
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:33 pm

Arsene Nose wrote:Best eventuality is to get knocked out of the Champions League without qualifying for the Europa League. What do we have to do to make that happen? I think it's the draw scenario right?


Tank both of our remaining matches.
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby ThisIsNotAnID » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:34 pm

We need that co-efficient people. The two Manchesters and Chelsea will eventually surpass us with Spurs and Liverpool hot on our trail. 4th place trophy won't be a thing then.
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby Cripps » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:48 pm

Our European record is awful. Go all out for the Europa if we are in it. Rest players during league games to make sure they are fit for the Europa.
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:49 pm

ThisIsNotAnID wrote:We need that co-efficient people. The two Manchesters and Chelsea will eventually surpass us with Spurs and Liverpool hot on our trail. 4th place trophy won't be a thing then.


England losing a CL spot would be the best thing for us.

Then we would no longer be able to rest on our laurels knowing at the very least we'll be able to eke out 4th place, with only 3 spots to play for we'd actually have to strengthen the squad season after season to ensure we make it.
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby Nuggets » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:01 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:
ThisIsNotAnID wrote:We need that co-efficient people. The two Manchesters and Chelsea will eventually surpass us with Spurs and Liverpool hot on our trail. 4th place trophy won't be a thing then.


England losing a CL spot would be the best thing for us.

Then we would no longer be able to rest on our laurels knowing at the very least we'll be able to eke out 4th place, with only 3 spots to play for we'd actually have to strengthen the squad season after season to ensure we make it.


Its really sad though to be even thinking of fighting for 4th place again, FFS how long must we put up with this sh1t.
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby Santi » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:32 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:Best eventuality is to get knocked out of the Champions League without qualifying for the Europa League. What do we have to do to make that happen? I think it's the draw scenario right?


Tank both of our remaining matches.


Lose today and we're pretty much guaranteed out in 4th place. Zagreb would have 6 pts with 2 wins over us and we'd be stuck on 3 pts with 1 game remaining.

Olympiakos don't even matter if we lose tonight, we COULD still come third after losing tonight but again we'd have to bea them by 2 goals or a bigger scoreline than they beat us (i.e. 4-3).
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby ThisIsNotAnID » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:34 pm

Mesüt wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:Best eventuality is to get knocked out of the Champions League without qualifying for the Europa League. What do we have to do to make that happen? I think it's the draw scenario right?


Tank both of our remaining matches.


Lose today and we're pretty much guaranteed out in 4th place. Zagreb would have 6 pts with 2 wins over us and we'd be stuck on 3 pts with 1 game remaining.

Olympiakos don't even matter if we lose tonight, we COULD still come third after losing tonight but again we'd have to bea them by 2 goals or a bigger scoreline than they beat us (i.e. 4-3).

We won't come third if we lose tonight. Zagreb would have the H2H advantage.
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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:58 pm

We are not losing to Zagreb guys

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Re: 24/11/2015 | Arsenal vs Dinamo Zagreb | Champions League

Postby Sims » Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:45 pm

Cech, Bellerin, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Monreal, Flamini, Cazorla, Campbell, Ozil, Alexis, Giroud

Ospina, Debuchy, Gabriel, Gibbs, Chambers, Ramsey, Reine-Adelaide
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