Sims wrote:https://streamable.com/d6oy
Harry Lame.
by Mike Dean » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:23 pm
Sims wrote:https://streamable.com/d6oy
by GoonerAlexandre » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:29 pm
by GoonerAlexandre » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:33 pm
SchlandGooner wrote:Mesüt wrote:SchlandGooner wrote:Sims wrote:the guy i posted the stats of isn't even a deep lying midfielder in any aspect of the role
I kNow from which player these stats are.
So why say what you said? Neither Wilshere or that player specifically play the 'late pirlo' role for their clubs n still don't score many. One of them has actually been able to forge a proper career so far and people call him world class, the other is slated on his play just cos he can't stay fit.
I was talking about the Alli vs Wilshere goals comparsion that you lot tried to deny with the position claim while in fact Wilshere also didn't do f**k all compared to Alli in that regard as he played more forward.
by TOP » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:40 am
Sims wrote:TOP wrote:Mesüt wrote:TOP wrote:you just said you didn't think wilshere was good enough to play central
who said that?
simsAlways wanted him RW
Do want him RW simply because he isn't gonna be a pure central midfielder like he should be in our side and we need creativity out wide
by Sims » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:01 am
by OptimusPrimett » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:14 am
Sims wrote:i would like to ask optimusprimett whether he thinks this player who would fit in the same role as Jack is a good player:
(apps then goals)
cripps dont spoil it
by Gunpowder » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:24 am
Sims wrote:4 goals 1 assist in 7 games on the right wing
me and zenith have talked about it before, it makes perfect sense for him to play there
by Schlandi » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:11 pm
Gunpowder wrote:Sims wrote:4 goals 1 assist in 7 games on the right wing
me and zenith have talked about it before, it makes perfect sense for him to play there
No, it doesn't. There is an arguement for him on right wing but it doesn't make perfect sense. First you're taking away Alexis' on form position. Second your attack is narrow, which is already a problem for us. Third if you start with Cazorla, and we should be starting with Cazorla, Jack becomes redundant and your scoring depends on Giroud and Alexis, again that's also a problem even without Jack on RW. So Jack doesn't bring anything new or solve anything.
Only ways Jack works on RW are Ramsey scores like that fluke season of his, and even then Cazorla should take the RW as he's better player than Jack, or Jack's 4 goals 1 assist in 7 becomes 16 goals and 4 assists on 28 but it doesn't work like that and you're fool if you count on him playing 28 games anyway.
We need a new winger.
by Sims » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:21 pm
by Gunpowder » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:38 pm
Sims wrote:It's cute how people still think Alexis will start as a right winger and think that Santi isn't physically shot and lost his burst of acceleration a year ago
by BS221B » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:45 pm
by Sims » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:50 pm
Gunpowder wrote:Sims wrote:It's cute how people still think Alexis will start as a right winger and think that Santi isn't physically shot and lost his burst of acceleration a year ago
Funny you use the words of physically shot and still advocate Jack Wilshere. Jack would have been shot if he was a horse.
To be honest I don't mind Alexis on the left but he has something going on on the right and he shouldn't make way for Wilshere. Buy the best winger you can and assign Alexis to the other wing.
by Marsbar100 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:16 pm
Sims wrote:Gunpowder wrote:Sims wrote:It's cute how people still think Alexis will start as a right winger and think that Santi isn't physically shot and lost his burst of acceleration a year ago
Funny you use the words of physically shot and still advocate Jack Wilshere. Jack would have been shot if he was a horse.
To be honest I don't mind Alexis on the left but he has something going on on the right and he shouldn't make way for Wilshere. Buy the best winger you can and assign Alexis to the other wing.
Jack is still physically fine, he's still relatively strong in comparison to his stature and still has his burst of acceleration
And I would prefer us to bring in a great winger, but now Miki's gone to United I can't see it and I'd rather have Wilshere over Götze or someone like that
by RW_0 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:25 pm
OptimusPrimett wrote:Sims wrote:i would like to ask optimusprimett whether he thinks this player who would fit in the same role as Jack is a good player:
(apps then goals)
cripps dont spoil it
Iniesta has won a world cup, 8 leagues and 4 champions leagues. Jack does not always start for f*cking England when fit.
Find it hard to believe people are defending Jack Wilshere. Has played 150+ games for Ars and 34 times for England, in the time since like 2010 or whatever he has literally shown nothing.
He could have developed into wonderful player had he stayed fit, but alas, that will never happen. He is not a deep lying play maker and will never come good there. He may possibly still have the potential to develop into something like Oscar's current level, given a starting CAM role, but really, I think it is more hope than expectation at this point. Realistically we are looking at a Lallana tier player for the remainder of his career.
Another big injury and I think he should just call it a day tbh, before he gets something that could be debilitating for the rest of his life.
The comparison with Dele Alli is a weird one I guess, but you were talking sh*t! really he is one of greatest prospects in world football, I think he will go on to become a prime Michael Ballack kind of player.
by Santi » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:14 pm
isaisdso wrote:Cazorla is still good enough to most teams in the world. im sure he'd walk in Atletico Madrid starting XI.