Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

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Spain
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48%
Czech Republic
3
10%
Turkey
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13%
Croatia
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Total votes : 31

Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby Cripps » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:18 am

Saw Spain's third finally

Morata is awesome.
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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby Zedie » Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:34 am

Cripps wrote:Saw Spain's third finally

Morata is awesome.


The way he tapped it in from 3 yards was legendary.
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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby Cripps » Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:54 am

Zedie wrote:
Cripps wrote:Saw Spain's third finally

Morata is awesome.


The way he tapped it in from 3 yards was legendary.

Messi has made a living out of doing that at Barca tbh. He's rated as the 2nd best in the world so can't be that easy to do
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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby Sims » Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:20 pm

Interesting stuff about Croatia fans 'protest' last night:

Who did it and why?
In short, extremist football club supporters ('hooligans', 'ultras') who are unhappy with how the Croatian Football Federation (FF) is run and the (supposed) corruption within. They don't like the leadership with whom they are at war for years now. What happened today is their attempt at trying to force their way, embarrass the Croatian FF officials and incite outrage in the football world. By doing so, they hoped to disqualify the Croatian national football team from the EURO competition. They think this (amongst other things) will put enough pressure on the people they want to step down to step down.

This is not the first time they've done something like this and they are adamant to continue until their requests are satisfied. You might remember Croatia being punished/fined/disqualified 15+ times in the recent years due to disturbances such as this one (riots, clashes with the police, racism, pitch invasions, etc). Especially prominent was the swastika mowed into the Split stadium field the night before the EURO 2016 qualifier match against Italy.

Again, it is important to understand that these are not random acts of boredom or drunkenness; they are planned and precisely orchestrated to further an agenda.

Who specifically in the Croatian FF is the problem for them?


Mainly, Zdravko Mamic and Davor Suker.

Zdravko is the de facto director of the Croatian FF and Dinamo Zagreb football club.

Davor is the formal president of the Croatian FF and a member of the UEFA Executive Committee.

Shortly, the two most powerful characters in the world of Croatian football.

Zdravko is being accused of setting up unfair player contracts, purchasing referee decisions, tax evasion, ignoring supporters' wishes to participate in the club decision making, and interfering with the Croatian national football team. Some media outlets have published this picture of Zdravko giving instructions to the coach Ante Cacic before today's game. Some people claim he is the decision maker of who gets to be the coach of the national team and which players get to play. He is also criticised of selling hundreds of millions of euros worth of football potential from 'his' club (Modric, Corluka, Mandzukic, Eduardo da Silva, Sammir, Halilovic, Kovacic, Pranjic, Badelj, etc.) instead of increasing squad strength by keeping the players and competing in the major European tournaments (he defends himself by saying he creates great players and that he props up the Croatian economy by paying millions in taxes as well). As a result the club is seen as the transition point between Croatian meagreness and European superstar clubs; the general sentiment being that if you are a player and you want to succeed, you have to go through Mamic.

Davor is similarly accused of corruption and being a right hand to/of Zdravko.

So what's the issue then? Get these people out of the football?

The 'issue' is that the current FF leadership is supported by many (including politicians) and that there is no proof of the accusations.

Though, Zdravko Mamic is currently under several investigations for the above, and indeed was jailed multiple times under allegations that didn't last long. Zdravko consistently claims he's a victim of his political enemies in power. He is currently under a court order to stay away from club duties (now acts as a 'club advisor'), but his involvement with the FF remains uninhibited.

Other important points/facts:


- Davor Suker claims Croatia will get away with a warning/fine for what happened today and continue the tournament unhampered otherwise
- the two supporter divisions apparently involved are Bad Blue Boys of Dinamo Zagreb and Torcida of Hajduk Split, otherwise diametrically opposed and fierce enemies
- the interruption of the match was planned long ahead and Croatian intelligence agencies (and later the media) warned the French days in advance
- St Etienne supporters are said to have purchased match tickets for the Croatian hooligans under random names; there were no ID checks at stadium entrances
- the amount of pyrotechnics brought on this time must serve as a caution to the French; there are people that would be willing to carry through something much more sinister than a firecracker


And the story of Mamic & Eduardo

Mamic is scum of the highest order. What he did to Eduardo was horrible.

He came through the youth team at Zagreb which was controlled by Mamic. For players to have a chance at the 1st team, they should sign a contract pledging 50% of their salary to Mamic. Eduardo was 16 years old, didn't know a word of Croatian and signed it. When he transferred to Arsenal, only then did he become aware of the clause. He even took Mamic to court, but when you deal with a man with such influence, nothing usually happens. He spent his time at Arsenal living frugally being forced to give away 50% of his life's earnings to the greedy c***, Mamic.

He swindled a gullible 16 year old of money he would make in his 20s and ensures that players who don't sign the contract don't get anywhere near the 1st team or the Croatian NT. Blatant corruption.


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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby Cripps » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:35 pm

We all Croatia and Czech fans?
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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby BS221B » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:43 pm

Having Iniesta and David Silva on same team is unfair.
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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby Cripps » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:52 pm

Czech Republic: Cech, Kaderabek, Sivok, Hubnik, Pudil, Pavelka, Darida, Plasil, Dockal, Necid, Krejci. Subs: Vaclik, Kadlec, Gebre Selassie, Limbersky, Rosicky, Skoda, Kolar, Suchy, Sural, Skalak, Lafata, Koubek.

Turkey: Babacan, Gonul, Topal, Balta, Koybasi, Mor, Tufan, Inan, Sen, Turan, Yilmaz. Subs: Kivrak, Kaya, Calik, Sahin, Calhanoglu, Tosun, Sahan, Ozyakup, Erkin, Malli, Ozbayrakli, Tekin.
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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby Cripps » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:54 pm

Croatia XI: Subasic; Vrsaljko, Corluka, Jedvaj, Srna; Rakitić, Rog, Badelj, Pjaca, Perisic; Kalinic.

Spain XI: De Gea, Juanfran, Ramos, Pique, Alba, Busquets, Iniesta, Fabregas, Silva, Nolito, Morata
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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby Cripps » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:55 pm

Croatian police have warned French police Croatian fans plan to attack the referee.
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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby Cripps » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:08 pm

0-1 Morata

Top scorer.
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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby Pudpop » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:10 pm

Wtf they aren't giving Hector a run even though they're guaranteed to go through?
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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby Cripps » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:11 pm

0-1 turkey

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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby Cripps » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:14 pm

So close Croatia. Ffs

Spain are leading but absolute shite they have been. Iniesta having his usual game. Haven't seen him
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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby AAIRE99 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:14 pm

that looked half a mile over the line wtf.
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Re: Group D (ESP, CZE, TUR, CRO)

Postby AAIRE99 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:15 pm

Pudpop wrote:Wtf they aren't giving Hector a run even though they're guaranteed to go through?

was gonna say he should be first choice but then forgot about juanfran one of the best if not the best RB in the world, nobody ever mentions him the guy is solid as they come defensively.
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